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Shane 13-06-13 01:18

Hi Tony

I was told it served there due to the fact the army green had been painted over in portland stone. You could see parts that were still green under many of the panels but could easy see the stone colour on the outside of the truck. Now as i said this is all new to me so this could be quite wrong so im just going on advice from a chap i know, maybe someone painted it here but im not sure. Anyway to find out :confused A fellow from the Military Museum said the same thing and thought it was ex Middle East can anyone advise me if it did or not. Cheers Shane

Keith Webb 13-06-13 01:30

F60l
 
Hi Shane

Your truck has the roof hatch as fitted to Australian issue F60L cab 12s. It is extremely unlikely to have served anywhere other than Australia or perhaps New Guinea. Also the colour it was in when you got it is faded khaki, not portland stone - khaki fades to a very similar colour. The ones with Middle East service were a much smaller number of Chevrolet cab 12s which were issued there and brought back to Australia. If it didn't have a roof hatch that would be more likely to have had overseas service.
Also the Supply/Mech contract number on your data plateS/M OR C/D 2037 is for Australian delivery.

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Originally Posted by Shane (Post 181314)
Hi Tony

I was told it served there due to the fact the army green had been painted over in portland stone. You could see parts that were still green under many of the panels but could easy see the stone colour on the outside of the truck. Now as i said this is all new to me so this could be quite wrong so im just going on advice from a chap i know, maybe someone painted it here but im not sure. Anyway to find out :confused A fellow from the Military Museum said the same thing and thought it was ex Middle East can anyone advise me if it did or not. Cheers Shane


Shane 13-06-13 02:15

Thanks for that Keith its good to know. Had my wisdom teeth pulled out yesterday and that didnt hurt as much as knowing she didnt serve over seas :whinge Never mind she wont be sent to the scrap dealer, i have given the old girl her name its..........Clementine. I named her after the wife of a Boar War prisoner. :no4:

Keith Webb 13-06-13 02:21

Wisdom teeth
 
You'll have to keep an eye out for a Chev cab 12 now... and get some khaki :doh:

Bob Moseley (RIP) 13-06-13 02:24

Paint Colour
 
Hi Shane- my research established the colour as Light Stone. I am restoring an F15 and will finish up with this colour. I obtain all my paint from Protec in the Port and they have all the formulas. The base paint is their engine enamel.

Bob

Shane 13-06-13 02:34

khaki was soooooo yesterday Keith. I do know what i think are 2 chev cab 12s not much left though (im going to pay for this) But i would rather drive around in a pink FORD than a Khaki Chev yes thats right people i have chosen a side and no its not the pain killers talking. :p

Shane 13-06-13 02:39

Hi Bob are you going to paint the motor the same colour as the cab? It was Hugh who put me onto this colour and i rekon it looks great, i hope to catch up soon mate maybe in 2 to 4 weeks ill bring the clan and a million questions if thats ok with you.

Keith Webb 13-06-13 04:12

Paint
 
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Originally Posted by Shane (Post 181322)
khaki was soooooo yesterday Keith. I do know what i think are 2 chev cab 12s not much left though (im going to pay for this) But i would rather drive around in a pink FORD than a Khaki Chev yes thats right people i have chosen a side and no its not the pain killers talking. :p

LOL Shane, you can do whatever you like! You can always consider khaki and light stone camo when it's ready for it's next repaint.

Howard 13-06-13 10:44

Radiators Mistery (to me)
 
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Originally Posted by Keith Webb (Post 181253)
But the relative positions of the radiator mounts to the water pumps was unchanged between cab 12 and 13. It's not uncommon to see cab 12s and 13s retrofitted with truck or carrier radiators where they don't line up. I've had to fit the wrong ones myself sometimes and if you fit the hoses first then push the radiator down into position before tightening the clamps they work OK.

Ah, so what you are suggesting is that the two #13 radiators I have may be in fact non-cmp truck radiators? :confused
It was years ago that I removed the radiator from Jo's 13, but I am sure that the bottom hoses were OK for alignment in the 13, but not in my 12. :confused :confused
Hmmm... I'll have to check!
Shane, Sorry for hijacking this thread... but it will be good to have an answer!
Cheers, H

Shane 13-06-13 11:42

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Well here are the fuel tanks, went to pick up lots of parts today and guess what they were not done :bang: Does anyone out there want to sell spare parts for a cab 12
Oh and Howard like your profile picture but i can only see one of your hands, now its either on Kates bum or its trying to steel my thread LOL

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Keith Webb 13-06-13 12:04

Difference
 
H, the only difference between a cab 12 and cab 13 chassis are the brake and clutch pedals and the fact it has two front cab mounts. The radiator and engine mounts are identical.


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Originally Posted by Howard (Post 181342)
Ah, so what you are suggesting is that the two #13 radiators I have may be in fact non-cmp truck radiators? :confused
It was years ago that I removed the radiator from Jo's 13, but I am sure that the bottom hoses were OK for alignment in the 13, but not in my 12. :confused :confused
Hmmm... I'll have to check!
Shane, Sorry for hijacking this thread... but it will be good to have an answer!
Cheers, H


Tony Wheeler 13-06-13 12:39

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Originally Posted by Howard (Post 181342)
It was years ago that I removed the radiator from Jo's 13, but I am sure that the bottom hoses were OK for alignment in the 13, but not in my 12. Hmmm... I'll have to check!

No need to check Howard, the chassis are identical, ipso facto the bottom hose alignment is identical.

You may have a carrier radiator, they turn up in CMPs sometimes. My cab 13 F60L from Ian Styles has acquired one at some stage. They have stepped down bottom outlets which result in a kinked bottom hose when fitted to CMPs, as seen in pic 1. You may not have noticed when removing it but you can't help but notice when trying to refit one!

It's possible some commercial trucks had this type of bottom outlet too, however you can identify a carrier radiator by the union in the overflow pipe, as seen in pics 2 & 3.

Tony Wheeler 13-06-13 13:31

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Originally Posted by Shane (Post 181323)
It was Hugh who put me onto this colour and i rekon it looks great

I agree Shane, I reckon they look stunning in desert scheme. As you say there's plenty of khaki green around, so yours will certainly stand out from the crowd. In effect it will be a ME replica, except for the hatch. In due course you could build a body and paint some AIF markings on to complete the picture.

Shane 13-06-13 15:12

Chee :)rs Tony great photo. Keep the advice coming mate i need it

Tony Wheeler 13-06-13 15:12

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Originally Posted by Keith Webb (Post 181315)
The ones with Middle East service were a much smaller number of Chevrolet cab 12s which were issued there and brought back to Australia.

There's evidence of Ford cab 12s too, eg. Cobb Force vehicles brought back by 7th Div. There was even a portee amongst them! Following account makes for excellent reading: http://www.2nd7thcavalry.com/cobbforce/

There's also a few pics in AWM series 044336 - 044343. One of them is named Joan, don't know if Clementine was there.

Shane 16-06-13 11:33

Thanks for your time Tony. I wonder if anyone can guess who the wife was of this boar war prisoner :teach: :confused She must have had been a strong woman to put up with her husband. Anyway lads thanks for all the help so far, if anyone comes into spare parts for the old girl please get in touch. :salute:

Paul Dutton 16-06-13 11:50

was it Churchill?? I recall him serving in the Boer War but not being prisoner. I could Google it but thats just cheating, and we know what cheating is dont we kids, fooling ourselves....!!!! (But shit, works for me!!!) :thup2:

Shane 16-06-13 12:49

Yes Paul well done and yes he was a prisoner of the boar :note: His next great effort was a battle in 1915. So what do you win............................
A life time mag membership to..............................

Oh my god i spent how much on my restoration project

and other titles such as

Why is there always one bolt or screw that just wont bloody come undone

And just for you Paul and the best seller of the year....

Please mum and dad why do we have to live in the North? All i want to be is an Essex Boy.

Paul Dutton 16-06-13 17:31

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Originally Posted by Shane (Post 181494)
Yes Paul well done and yes he was a prisoner of the boar :note: His next great effort was a battle in 1915. So what do you win............................
A life time mag membership to..............................

Oh my god i spent how much on my restoration project

and other titles such as

Why is there always one bolt or screw that just wont bloody come undone

And just for you Paul and the best seller of the year....

Please mum and dad why do we have to live in the North? All i want to be is an Essex Boy.

Shit mate, would rather be an Aussie than an Essex boy!!! :cheers:
that's fighting talk here mate, that started two world wars and various conflicts since!!! That's like saying you want to be a Tazzy!!! Lol

Shane 17-06-13 05:59

HAHAHA i dont blame you Paul, good to see the British humour is still alive and well. :cheers: Hang on a minute my family is from Essex;)

Shane 18-06-13 14:04

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Hello all.

Great news got the brakes back today and they look great. Still after doors for my truck if anyone can hunt some down. Well done Australia WORLD CUP here we come Cheers Shane.

Bob Moseley (RIP) 19-06-13 10:01

Radiator
 
Hi Shane - any resolution on my radiator?

Bob

Shane 19-06-13 11:09

Hi Bob.

Yes mate if you think it will fit no worries :) I have just spent my last bit of cash on the brakes so it might take a little while to save up to pay you. Also Hugh said he is going to help me put the brakes on so there might be more money in parts there. You know the old story mate........ wife, 10 kids(only two), bills and of course the blitz truck, so if you can hang in there that would be great. However if you find a buyer by all means sell it(and i will hunt you down :mad: :no4:) because i will understand and thats what people on the MLU forum are about. :cheers: :cheers:

Bob Moseley (RIP) 20-06-13 11:21

Re. Radiator
 
Hi Shane - no worries, I will hang onto it for you. I think there was enough advice supporting the usage of this radiator.

Bob

Shane 03-07-13 02:42

My cab 12
 
Thought i would put a link up for those that would like to see how the truck is going so far.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bae2VcQMhpE

Please leave a comment or give some feedback cheers lads. :cheers:

Oh and thanks to Hugh Davis who is dropping off my tyres for the cab 12.

Private_collector 08-07-13 07:53

Still keeping an eye out for the woodwork fellow!

Little Jo 09-07-13 11:37

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Hey Shane

Here is a bit that could be of use to your restoration project. :thup:

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 182436)
CMP instrument panel on MilWeb:
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Ford instrument panel
Unknown vehicle, where and as it is, 250€ + shipping.
337 719904
Giorgio Conforti

Cheers

Tony :no4:

Shane 25-07-13 12:39

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Hello all.

Hoping that this is the door that will fit my cab 12 can anyone let me know :confused
Hoping that someone out there has another if this door is correct. Not much to report on the truck (as far as photos go) but in the background the cab is almost done as is the motor. Have got new bolts for the truck and they are black in colour may even decide not to paint them as i think they would look good against the portlandstone. :cheers: :sheep: :sheep:


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aj.lec 25-07-13 13:18

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Originally Posted by Shane (Post 183170)
Hello all.

Hoping that this is the door that will fit my cab 12 can anyone let me know :confused
Hoping that someone out there has another if this door is correct. Not much to report on the truck (as far as photos go) but in the background the cab is almost done as is the motor. Have got new bolts for the truck and they are black in colour may even decide not to paint them as i think they would look good against the portlandstone. :cheers: :sheep: :sheep:


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Certainly will. Passenger door and it's even a Ford door

Ganmain Tony 25-07-13 13:41

Cab 12 Door
 
I recently restored a passenger side door on my truck. If you go to the soft skin forum and search for the thread F60L recent pics you will see what I had to do.

A note -you can save the screws that hold the map pocket to the inside of the door, by heating them before removing them. I suggest you do this to save them you will not find replacements...

You will also discover restoring the door and lock are two separate projects as is fitting the door to the vehicle.


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