Well said! One of the lovely things about our forum!......although it does usually mean going to bed in the middle of the night:blink:

what about GMC CCKW? Don't they use the same webbing stuff under the bonnet/hood? I did buy some NOS CCKW nails/screws a while ago, which are the same as used on the CMP to secure the seal.


Bob, Jacek; I have some pics of a C15 here in Holland with a 2A1 body (also came from France) and allthough I think Jacek's truck probably retains more original details, I will try to post some pics in the weekend.


Alex

Excuse me while I wipe eggs off my face,,,,
 

Alex

You were right....my cab 11 had rubber anti-squeak spacer.

It had canvass tape elsewhere but on the hood it was RUBBER...

Always learning is fine....... not remembering due to age is the pits.

Now I need to find some rubber material.

Cheers

Bob

It is canvas seal all arround under the hood in mine Chevy.

Bob I am curious how these wingnuts You wrote about were securing the hood. Do You have any photo? I also can't find any bolts for wingnuts in engine cover panels. On the picture You have posted there are two hooks which purpose was probably to secure the hood. I don’t think it was original design as I can see any trace of it in my truck or on Cletrac vehicle.

Ah yes .... the details.
 

Hi Jacek

NO.... those two clips on my cab 11 are WRONG..... they were added by the previous owner and have no place on a cab 11

The hood on factory pictures was held by two nuts, one in each forward corner....... I have seen many pictures with washers welded upright on those nuts for easier dissassembly in routine maintenance..... they may have been replaced by wing nuts at the factgory eventually.

Will look for other pictures.

A friend of mine has found the supplier for the canvass web for the hood and I will forward to you separately.......

Cheers

A few quick pictures...
 

Showing the hood on an early C8 cab 11

the two bolt holes are marked

Also included the dash portion which has retained its lettering even thoguh the rest of the truck is totally rusted. Not sure if the lettering was only o the early no vent models.

Looking for other pics.

Cheers

There are 4 possible holes for bolts, but only two in the center could be used for wingnuts. Or it was not a wingnut but a wingbolt they used?

This hood is all original. Those bent straps hook onto the rear of the opening and two bolts hold the front down. You can see the only holes on the rear of the opening hold down the rubber weatherstripping. The two holes on the front that are an inch or so from the edges are where the bolts go. The parts book says:
Screw, hood centre panel thumb (first jobs) (5801405)

So if hood was secured in these points it couldn’t be wingnuts because there are holders for square nuts underneath, so only bolt can go there.

Bingo
 

Thanks David

so the "Thumb screw" would be some kind of wing nut screw....... a short piece of threaded rod welded to a thumb screw.

Jacek you have the right square nuts identified. If you have trouble finding thumbscrew in British/North American thread size let me know.

Cheers

I have another hood with the thumb screws but I'm not sure where it is. The screw heads are about 5/8" or 3/4" diameter and are knurled. They have some way to keep them from coming out of the hood piece too.
The picture looks pretty close to the original.

After posting the last picture I came across this factory photo. Now we know for sure. The bolt head has a blade sticking up.

That's it....
 

Thanks David..... I think they are still available....will search.

Bob C

never seen bolts with such head in Poland.

Try this.....
 

http://www.spaenaur.com/catalog/#B331/z

The only problems is they will not sell only two.

I will inquire and if the price is reasonable will order a small quantity and remail.... will need to determine thread size..... either 1/4 20tpi or 5/16 18tpi

Cheers

Incredible supply.

New subframe is ready. We tried how it will look like with metalwork we had from old body.

Jacek,

Over on HMVF I saw you posted a picture of the number found on the bumper. I guess "363 W7" is a civilian registration number?
Attachment 69578

I was asking about any military markings because I wonder if this C15 was one supplied to France after WW2, or if it was one of many captured in 1940 by the German Army, used by them during the occupation of France, after which it was put to civilian use? If only trucks like this could tell their whole story!

Hanno

Hanno, I couldn't find any military marks so far. I doubt it was one of the trucks left behind , it has inspection plate from GM dated 1945. Certificat D'Immatriculacion I have is for reg no 352CE35. It was issued in 1955. No idea where 363 W7 comes from. One thing for sure it was covered with paint, so must have been before 352CE35. I will be in Bretany next week I try to lern more about vehicle history.

I think it makes vehicle quite special.

Is this rear lamp original or some French addition ?

Definitely not original!

Jacek,

You're making good progress!

The rear lights are not original to the truck. Original rear lights would have been Rubbolite-style lights (lights with rubber housing). Early trucks only had two of these on the right hand side.

I don't know about regulations in Poland; but you will likely need some modern lights to be able to use your truck on the road. The "French" light, although not original; does look very "period" and might be good to keep for that reason.

Alex

We have quite good regulations concerning registration of old vehicles. It can be restored to 100% and get special "historic vehicle" registration plate which allows it to drive on public roads.

Trip to Bretany didn't bring any results. In Renes they told me that according to Certificat D'Immatriculacion I have, truck was deleted from Register of Motor Vehicles in 1968. They keep archives for 5 years so in 1973 all documents concering this truck were destroyed. Only clue I've got is to find one more number behind 363 W 7 , it will indicate in which prefecture truck was registered before 1955.

We assembled new floor.

Beautiful...
 

You make all that work look so easy......

Bob C

The old floor on your box didn't have the holes for the division boards so the floor must have been changed at one time.

Some more work done on the box.

These reinforcements of rear mudguards are original or were added later ?
Welding was done just on ends and it was a good place for mud to start corrossion.