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Mark Sierant 05-11-04 04:50

Dont touch the WEBBS
 
This truck is probally being held together by SPIDER SPIT dont use baggon all will be lost.

David_Hayward (RIP) 05-11-04 08:27

270 engine
 
I wondered whether the GMC 270 as used in CMPs was in fact assembled in the Chevrolet Flint Motor Plant, rather than GMC's Pontiac, Michigan Plant.

Lars Ulvestad 05-11-04 08:31

Manuals for C60X
 
Euan,

There is a workshop manual for C60X up for auction at ebay, but it is very expensive.

I have a original copy of the illustrated spare parts list for C60X, and as I don't have a C60X I am willing to trade it.


:)

Hanno Spoelstra 05-11-04 10:08

Re: Manuals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tony Smith
The GMC 270 engine (CCKW/DUKW)is not the same as the 270 fitted to the C60X but they are interchangable. The C60X 270 has a lot more Chev features than the US GMC 270.
Tony, I'd be very much interested in any details/scans about the differences between the GMC 270 engine fitted in CCKW's and CMP's as I have always wondered about this. The subject was discussed in the thread GMC 270 engine in CMP vehicles, but apparently that time you weren't around to help us out :)

Regards,
Hanno

jim sewell 05-11-04 13:03

CCKW 270 , C60X and Staghound Engines
 
Hanno
I have been trying to find out the differences in the above engines . I have just about finished a CCKW and would like to start on a C60X in the future .
I have taken 270 's out of a wrecked C60X and a CCKW and they were Staghound engines having the left and right engine numbers eg, ACR 4249 and ACL XXXX ( lost the note it was written on ).
The main difference I could see with the staghound eng , was the crank was longer in the front to support the twin pully harmonic balancer and the rear main cap had 4 bolts instead of 2 .
Main bearings seemed to be identical .
Exhaust manifolds were obviously different between the three vehicles , with the exhaust outlet on a CCKW coming straight down , the staghound out the front of the engine and the C60X on an angle to the rear of the vehicle .

Common parts between a 270 and a CMP 216 are the water pump , distributor , camshaft timing gear , front engine mount , timing cover , harmonic balancer ( cckw ) fuel pump , thermostat housing ( not outlet ) cam followers , exhaust valves , valve guides .

I have a std staghound block that I would like to rebuild and would like to know what the differences are before I start .
Would appreciate any info .

Tony Smith 05-11-04 14:02

Re: Re: Manuals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
The subject was discussed in the thread GMC 270 engine in CMP vehicles, but apparently that time you weren't around to help us out :)
Where was I then?
I'm going to have to go back and get more pics of this truck, aren't I?
Some of the more obvious external differences:
The "Harmonic Balancer" on the front of the C60X crank is a press on fit with internal slot for hand crank handle, CCKW is a slide on fit with a retaining bolt with starter dog (like Ford).
C60X 270 makes 125hp at 3000rpm, CCKW is governed to 2700rpm, NOT TO BE EXCEEDED.
C60X distributor has vacuum advance/retard plus internal flyweights, CCKW just flyweights.

I don't have a parts book for a CCKW or DUKW, so can't compare part numbers, but if anyone else does, we can solve some riddles.

Hanno Spoelstra 05-11-04 21:28

Re: CCKW 270 , C60X and Staghound Engines
 
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Quote:

Originally posted by jim sewell
The main difference I could see with the staghound eng , was the crank was longer in the front to support the twin pully harmonic balancer and the rear main cap had 4 bolts instead of 2 .
Main bearings seemed to be identical .
Exhaust manifolds were obviously different between the three vehicles , with the exhaust outlet on a CCKW coming straight down , the staghound out the front of the engine and the C60X on an angle to the rear of the vehicle .

Jim, Tony (good excuse!), here are some Staghound engine pics: front...

Hanno Spoelstra 05-11-04 21:30

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...rear (since they are fitted rear to front in the Staghound)...

Hanno Spoelstra 05-11-04 21:31

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...and side views, courtesy of Kris Zwiers' Staghound website.

Euan McDonald 05-11-04 22:32

Re: Manuals for C60X
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lars Ulvestad
There is a workshop manual for C60X up for auction at ebay, but it is very expensive.

I have a original copy of the illustrated spare parts list for C60X, and as I don't have a C60X I am willing to trade it.

Thanks Lars for the heads up, but ebay price a little steep for me. I will pm you on the parts list.
Euan.

jim sewell 07-11-04 15:03

staghound engines
 
Thanks for the pictures Hanno , I can see that the water pump is definately different , I cannot work out why they would have left and right engines in the engine serial numbers ie, acl and acr , maybe this was to make it clear that they were different from truck engines ?.

cliff 07-11-04 21:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
...rear (since they are fitted rear to front in the Staghound)...

hmmm and here I was thinking you had had a few too many before posting Hanno

LOL:cheers:


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