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Tony Smith 23-12-05 14:17

Re: military heavyweights
 
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Scammell 20 tonrated tractor introduced in 1939 with 10.50.20 front tyres shown. They usually towed a Scammell 20 ton cranked trailer but is shown here coupled to a Shelvoke and Drewry 30 ton normally used in conjunction with a Diamond T

Alex van de Wetering 25-12-05 20:22

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Hi Guys. A Merry Christmas to you all.

I just wanted to post these pictures which I took today, about 20 minutes from my home. This trailer has been standing there for about 10 years now, being moved to another spot some meters away, from time to time.

I tried to find out what trailer it is and although I am not sure, I think this is a 40 ton 24 wheeled "Dyson" trailer MK2, designed to carry Churchill and other wide tanks.

Can anyone verify this?

regards,

Alex van de Wetering

Alex van de Wetering 25-12-05 20:25

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I didn't find any data plates, yet, but I have only been there a few minutes today and it was getting dark allready.

Alex

Oh, and no white christmas here in holland:)

Les Freathy 26-12-05 08:28

Good morning Alex
You dont want a white christmas do you, looks loverly when its falling but afterwards oh dear, we seem to come to a standstill in the UK when we get only 2" of snow i dont think many in authority have ever seen the heavy stuff god help us if they do.
Your trailer yes it is a Dyson/Crane, could be either in fact it is a MK2 with no retaining ribs on the outside platform to allow tanks with wider tracks to sit. Interesting the way they have welded on to the beaver tail to lenthen the platform obviously for heavy haulage any ideas of the company name and there purpose
all the best Les

Alex van de Wetering 28-12-05 00:04

Hi Les,

Well, in the end we did have some snow here during christmas......the next morning the battery of the car was dead:mad:

I don't know the company name or what they do exactly. I guess it is some sort of a scrapmetal company or blacksmith, because they have some metal fences/gates lying around, but also all sorts of scrap and woodwork. One day they had a large pressure-chamber placed on the trailer, probably for testing diving equipment or something like that. I will find out what they do, one day, because I want to take some measurements and extra pictures for modeling purposes.

Have you got any pictures of what the trailer used to look like in WW2 service? I have only found two pictures, one form Bart VanderVeen which shows the MK1 trailer (with rivits) and one very vague picture of a MK2. I do have a copy of the Operating Manual of the 50 ton Dyson trailer, which is quite similar.

Regards,

Alex

Alex van de Wetering 28-12-05 00:05

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david moore 28-12-05 01:14

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Les
Although taken in 1955, I think this Scammell belongs to this forum not the "modern" one. The picture is of a Brit family friend, Richard Hicks taken on 28th Feb 1955 in Germany. RASC I believe.

David Moore

Jon Skagfeld 28-12-05 01:15

Scammell
 
Wasn't there a bit of a rude reference to a female's anatomy, with reference to the starter button on a Scammell?

Les Freathy 28-12-05 16:02

Hi David
Yes it is in the correct thread i said at the begining we could take items into the 50s as many WW2 vehicles did indeed soldier on into this period, thanks for your contribution
Les

Richard Farrant 28-12-05 16:18

Re: Scammell
 
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Originally posted by Jon Skagfeld
Wasn't there a bit of a rude reference to a female's anatomy, with reference to the starter button on a Scammell?
Jon,

An ex-REME Recy Mech, I know, who studies the female form, is often heard to refer to two frontal protrudences, as standing out like Scammell wheel nuts. I think that you are thinking along the same lines?

Richard

John McGillivray 04-01-06 03:44

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The 53rd Light Aid Detachment, R.C.E.M.E commanded by Capt. J.G. Wilkin, attached to LdSH. The first one (left) is a Diamond T. What is the second one, a Mack with a soft top?

cliff 04-01-06 05:40

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Originally posted by John McGillivray
. The first one (left) is a Diamond T. What is the second one, a Mack with a soft top?
John a bit hard to tell but it may be a later soft top Diamond T.

After about August 1943 all US Army trucks had the soft top military cab fitted.

Cheers
Cliff :salute:

David_Hayward (RIP) 04-01-06 09:19

Mack?
 
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What is the second one, a Mack with a soft top?
To my eyes it appears as though the hood and rad are similar to Macks but I agree DTs also went soft-top. I have a photo somewhere of a 1943 DT assembled in England.

Lang 04-01-06 10:34

Brad,

The tracks referred to in the photo caption as being fitted to the Diamond T's were probably bogie chains. These are just like standard mud chains but instead of going over just one set of wheels they wrapped around both forming a sort of half track.

I have two sets, one to fit a GMC 6x6 and a larger set to fit something like a Diamond T or Mack.

I have seen experimental clip-on tracks with proper plates etc but never a photo of them in active service. More than likely these were the bogie chains which feature in a few photos I have seen over the years.

Lang

Lang 04-01-06 10:46

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I just posted some photos on the Pacific Graveyard thread but with all the Dodge stuff there are a couple of Diamond T wreckers still there for the taking!

Lang

Les Freathy 04-01-06 10:58

John
Nice photo of the Canadian wreckers and crews, the second vehicle is most definatly a Mack LMSW with Garwood twin booms. This type were in the main supplied to the Canadian army the British were supplied with the type shown earlier in this thread

Lang 04-01-06 10:58

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Sorry wrong photo. Still with the Holmes wrecking gear it is a good test for somebody to identify the truck model.

Attached is what I meant to send.

Lang

Richard Farrant 04-01-06 20:34

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Still with the Holmes wrecking gear it is a good test for somebody to identify the truck model.
Hi Lang,

It looks like a Diamond T 969 from the cab door and what can be seen of the front mudguard (wing, fender, etc. !).

By the way, I followed your little adventure last year via the ABC website. Do you know if they are producing a DVD of the programme?

Richard

Lang 05-01-06 04:28

Richard,

The Diamond T is not hard but the white one in the previous photo might take a bit for most people.

The ABC documentary "The Great Peking to Paris Race,or Expedition?' will be out early in the year
. Four 1 hour documentary series. The nice coffee table book is already in the bookshops "The Great Peking to Paris Expedition" published by Harper Collins. I think somebody said it is in the UK shops already. I think Channel 4 in UK have bought the documentary.

Lang

Lang 05-01-06 06:07

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Richard,

A better photo of the New Guinea Diamond T. It is a lot more complete than it looks with very little rust. Most of the missing bits are laying around in the grass. If it was a bit closer to civilisation it would be an "easy" restoration job.

Lang

Richard Farrant 05-01-06 11:02

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Originally posted by Lang

The ABC documentary "The Great Peking to Paris Race,or Expedition?' will be out early in the year

Lang,

Thanks for the info on this, will keep a look out for it on TV and the book. Regards to Warren when you speak to him.

Richard

Les Freathy 08-01-06 22:10

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Brockway B666 Treadway bridge system for the heavyweight thread
Les

Lang 18-01-06 05:13

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An Australian Diamond T Japan 1950

Les Freathy 19-01-06 12:35

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A few years ago the brothers Cadman imported 3 M26 and 1 M26A1 tractors to the UK, here are a couple of photos of them on the week they arrived and of one of them restored. This item is now on display at the Whitbread hop farm home of the War and Piece shows
les

Les Freathy 19-01-06 12:36

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Marco C. 29-01-06 13:29

Heavy Transports
 
Further to the excellent threads Fairground Vehicles, here's a suggestion for a new subject: Heavy Transports military WW2 vehicles



http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/54046.jpg


This Picture shows a Transport of Buffalos at Bönninghardt

Les Freathy 29-01-06 20:25

Hi Marco
Look under military heavyweights the thread is already running
Les

Marco C. 30-01-06 12:42

Oh yes I have seen it to late

Marco C. 30-01-06 12:49

http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/54470.jpg


Ward LA France

http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/54472.jpg



http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/54473.jpg

Bill Murray 06-02-06 19:58

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From the Polish thread
Bill


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