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martineaton

23-07-07 20:25

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From War and Peace show

Noel Burgess

24-07-07 00:30

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Spent some time this weekend browsing through the Sikorski pictures at the "Le March in Guerra" website (details elswhere)
Here's the first pair of interesting recovery photos.

Seems like a "home made" recovery rig - is it a Mack truck?

Noel Burgess

24-07-07 00:36

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Next on doesn't have a clear shot, it's just in the background.
Is it a Dodge T110 ?(they seemed to have quite a few as GS trucks).
The recovery body looks like the earliest CMP type with a small rectangular rear body.
Any ideas?

Noel Burgess

24-07-07 00:39

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There were quite a few phtos of this one - is this the second CMP body? - wooden body but with sides sloping to the front, hand winch

Noel Burgess

24-07-07 00:46

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Finally (at last I hear you cry) - a wheeled ambulance.
There was some discussion on these on another thread here
Les - is this evidence of there use mid-war? If I understand correctly all these photos were taken in Italy so thas 1943/44

Hope you all like thiis batch of photos and that someone can expand on and probably correct my assumptions

Noel

Alex van de Wetering

14-10-07 20:25

Hi Guys,

Here is a copy of one of the pictures in the 3.7inch AA thread, but this time the subject is the crane in the background. Noel Burgess contacted me about the crane and both of us would be interested in more information about the use of these things.

They seem to look a lot like the ones used on airfields, but the one on the pictures below is tracked. I have seen more pictures and even some movie footage, of these things being used on the Normandy beaches to recover stranded landing craft. Were they specificaly designed for this role?

Alex

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/at...=&postid=81289

Alex van de Wetering

15-10-07 17:33

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Here is another shot with one of the cranes in the background.

Alex

Jeroen Sleijpen

18-10-07 13:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Noel Burgess
Spent some time this weekend browsing through the Sikorski pictures at the "Le March in Guerra" website (details elswhere)
Here's the first pair of interesting recovery photos.

Seems like a "home made" recovery rig - is it a Mack truck?

Thats indeed a Mack NM with a "home made" recovery rig...

Nice pictures, thanks for sharing!

Jeroen

Rolf S. Ask

18-10-07 17:33

Noel

The equipment on the Dodge I think is a Holmes W590 that was the first type. They were produced between 1940 - 42.
The equipment on the CMP wrecker you think is the second type I think is aFord F60L BRKD2 with Gar Wood CA5, body is by Brantford and the type is 5L1. Used in the period 1942-43.

Chers

Rolf

PS: I had an article on wreckers in the first english issue of Mud & Snow that was handed out at "The War & Peace Show" this summer. Next issue is out shortly!

Radek

18-10-07 18:47

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My friends Diamond. :salute:

Les Freathy

22-10-07 12:04

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Alex, heres a pic of one of the towed cranes you mentioned a while back, if i am correct i think there were two types with differing loading capacities and to add to that a small number of local built units have been seen in various photos. I believe Le Tourne were involved is that correc Bill?
cheers
Les

Noel Burgess

23-10-07 14:50

Towed Crane

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Les & Alex
Thanks for further pictures of these towed cranes - I caught a glimpse of one when reviewing a video I recorded from the TV some years ago; series called "World War Two in Colour" brief shot in the D-Day section.
Were they used exclusively for recovering landing craft or as a general lifting attachment for dozers?
Thanks also to Rolf and Jeroen for your info on the Polish items I posted.
Finally I attach a picture of a device definately designed to lift landing craft (cant remember where on the web I found this - so hope I havn't upset anyone by posting it

Noel

Bill Murray

25-10-07 18:29

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Les/Noel:
I believe this is what you are looking for, from TM 9-2800 dated Oct. 1947.
Sorry for the skewed photo but I have a problematic scanner and I was trying not to break the spine of a rare original copy of the TM
Bill

James Baxter

10-11-07 12:08

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While I was living in Mombasa I acquired an F60 breakdown from a chap in Nairobi, in a sorry state (the truck, not the chap) and had it transported to Mombasa, where it is now awaiting shipment to UK. While there, a friend has been doing some restoration work on it. Hopefully it will be in UK in spring next year.

I am looking for a 1940s Ford civilian style truck instrument cluster for it. Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Attached photo if it on arrival in Mombasa.

James

Rod Diery

13-11-07 13:57

RAAF Aircraft Recovery Crane

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I found this pic on the National Archives of Australia site of what appears to be a GM C60X aircraft recovery crane. The aircraft is a CAC CA18 Mustang Mk 23 A68-176 which forced landed at Redbank, Queensland in May 1955 after an engine failure.

Cheers
Rod

Noel Burgess

16-03-08 02:51

Towed Crane

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Just found this photo at http://omahabeach.mulberry.free.fr/

sapper740

16-03-08 18:48

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Originally Posted by Les Freathy (Post 59780)

I had a search through the forum on wreckers and recovery vehicles and came to the conclusion that all were directed at specific items ie certain types of truck or recovery unit. As this is a broad subject thought it would be a good idea to start a thread on these vehicles in general leaving any specific items for the said threads. Prehaps if we take this thread up to 1945 and include any pre or wartime produced vehicles including demobbed post war items could go in to the military heavyweight thread or maybe start the same over there.
So to kick off here are a few Ward La France photos

Les, here are two Ward LaFrance wreckers hard at work pulling something heavy (unidentified) out of the mud with what appears to be a Scammel waiting behind. Derek.

David_Hayward (RIP)

28-04-08 15:55

M26 Dragon Wagon

Has anyone got any photos please of the Pacific tractors that I could use? I need three that can be published. Suitable remuneration available!

Chaser

29-04-08 02:52

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Here's one from my collection with the Weasel on the trailer.

sapper740

29-04-08 03:26

M26 pics

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Originally Posted by David_Hayward (Post 97706)

Has anyone got any photos please of the Pacific tractors that I could use? I need three that can be published. Suitable remuneration available!

Try these pics on for size Dave, they're all from non copy-righted websites. Derek.

David_Hayward (RIP)

29-04-08 09:11

Cheers!

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Thanks! If only I could find the original of this shot taken post-war! Shots of British Dragon Wagons are ultra-rare! So is the Book! Seems it's out of print now from Ampersand Publishing.

Les Freathy

29-04-08 22:09

Hi David

The shot of the large wheeled M26 being tested by the British is a IWM photo i think in the Chertsey collection which if memory serves me right is the MVE series. I took the number of it and will see if i can locate it for you i think there were other views but dont think the next or previous numbers are of the same vehicle, the IWM seemed to have a strange way of catalogueing this series
cheers
Les

David_Hayward (RIP)

29-04-08 22:44

Iwm #

Les, if you have the number I shall be extremely grateful as I can order it (now knowing personnel to speak to to look through the boxes). I couldn't find the shot online so would imagine it's in the unscanned portion. The KID[brooke] series has a large number of CMPs and MCPs that apparently are not online yet.

David

David_Hayward (RIP)

21-11-08 14:07

Chrysler crated Diamond T?

I thought that this photo was one of a boring old D60S crates but the large size file, despite being corrupted, has been opened at last and the stencilling suggests as it has the words on the right that it is a 'MEDIUM BREAKD' [OWN] then under that 'DIAMOND T CHASSIS ' and there is a serial number stencilled bottom right corner 969B0325...so I assume that it's a Chrysler-CRATED DT model 969B wrecker for the Canadian forces?

I had forgotten that Chryslers crated up vehicles for overseas shipment!!!

David_Hayward (RIP)

21-11-08 14:11

Chrysler crated Diamond T?

Jeroen Sleijpen

21-11-08 15:30

David, the link doesn't work??? Or is it me ;)

David_Hayward (RIP)

21-11-08 15:41

Enhanced section

I have converted the corrupted TIF to a JPEG, then cropped and posted again to show the crate stencilling. It must be a Diamond T 969B! It seems that it was a Chrysler Machinery body, which must have been crated seperate from the chassis.

1MB file here:
http://www.gmhistorian.btinternet.co.uk/crate.jpg

Jeff Gordon

22-11-08 05:15

My Diamond T

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Here is a couple of photos of my Diamond T. Definitely the largest but most rewarding project I have ever undertaken.
Cheers
Jeff

Les Freathy

23-11-08 22:57

Noel going back to your entry on 23 july i missed your question on the towed ambulance sorry, that one behind the Polish GMC looks to me to be a field fabrication possibly utilising jeep or tilly wheels
cheers
Les

Lionelgee

04-01-10 03:24

Recovery

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Originally Posted by Les Freathy (Post 60087)

Might as well add another whist here a CMP wrecker in problems, looking at the state of the booms it may well have rolled

G'day Les,

Just wondering if you can remember the source of where you found this photo of a CMP light recovery truck? If so could you please forward it to me - thank you.

Kind Regards
Lionel

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