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Vets Dottir

06-08-04 16:26

Re: Re: Greatcoats and Glamour Boots

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Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Yup, thats right, I only sent her the cover.....to many words in the rest of the book for :yappy: to handle........:p,

:( I couldn't find a picture of "Canadians at War" so there :p and my eyes have aged much since joining this place but I CAN still see enough to see cheek when it's there :D :p

Vets Dottir

06-08-04 19:54

Article

I was searching google for information about a book title I found in the Main MLU pages and came across this article from Legion Magazine about "Jill Canuck" ... :)

http://www.legionmagazine.com/featur...tory/96-10.asp

Vets Dottir

18-08-04 18:54

Hudson's Bay Company Winnipeg Store

Here aree some tidbits about Hudson's Bay Company Store in Winnipeg during WW2;

http://www.hbc.com/hbc/e_hi/historic_hbc/ww2.htm

Quote:

All of the big windows in the Winnipeg store were at one point given over to displays of war work done by the women of Manitoba.

Vets Dottir

25-08-04 05:32

Aunt

An aunt with the Navy, WW2 ...

WRCNS:/A
1942-1945

Quote:

R&eacutedactrice de la Marine
Ruthanne Urquhart navyeditor@canada.com

Wrens mark 60th anniversary

Image: COURTESY OF THE / AVEC LA PERMISSION DU NAVAL
MUSEUM OF ALBERTA
Some early groundbreakers for the Canadian women's movement
gathered in Halifax's Grand Parade April 29 to mark the 60th
anniversary of the standing up of the Women's Royal Canadian Naval
Service.
More than 50 former Wrens, as they were referred to almost immediately after
the WRCNS was stood up, participated in a commemorative parade and flag
raising ceremony. The weather was East Coast Spring at its worst-cold,
blustery, wet- but the Wrens scoffed at the suggestion that the ceremonies be
moved indoors. They had marched in worse than that, they agreed.
&quotThey marched as if they'd been marching for the last 55 years," said
Maritime Forces Atlantic (MARLANT) Public Affairs Officer Lt(N) Pat Jessup.
&quotYou could see such pride in their faces, to have been Wrens and to
have served their country."
The WRCNS was established in 1942 to free up badly needed sailors for sea
duty. Wrens performed duties that in the Second World War era were utterly
nontraditional for women. They maintained anti-submarine equipment and
aircraft; they practically took over East Coast cryptography, communications,
signaling, and wireless telegraphy, and contributed in many other fields; and
they earned the reputation for being able to drive anything over any kind of
road in any weather, all in support of the war effort. Of the 6 665 who served
during the Second World War, about 1 000 served overseas, many in Northern
Ireland and Scotland, and more than 500 in Newfoundland, the island nation
off Canada's East Coast still four years away from becoming a province.
&quotYou helped shape the women's movement for the last 30 years. You
were, I believe, trailblazers, pathfinders,"
Rear-Admiral Bruce MacLean, Commander MARLANT, said during his
address. &quotYou had an important influence on two generations of
daughters."
&quotWe thank them," said Halifax Mayor Peter Kelly, &quotfor their
outstanding service to our country in wartime, and throughout their lives as
active community members."
Marching with the Wrens were female members of MARLANT, Halifax
Regional Police, and the RCMP, as well as a Royal Canadian Legion Colour
Guard and a contingent from the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires.
As members of the Stadacona Band played "Heart of Oak", Mable Clarke and
Petty Officer, 2nd Class S. Legge raised the White Ensign which flew at
Halifax City Hall during Battle of the Atlantic Week.
Visit collections.ic.gc.ca/navy/wrens.htm for more information about the
WRCNS.
The Girls of the King's
Navy is a song recorded by Wrens at Halifax's
Canadian Navy Training Center in 1943, and a book written by Rosamond
Greer in 1983. Both commemorate the women who served.

Richard Notton

25-08-04 07:36

Re: Great

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Originally posted by Vets Dottir
I look forward to watching the contributions grow, learning more about women's involvement in WW2 ... (and other involvements with the Forces) Carman

Let's not forget HM Queen Elizabeth II as the then Princess Elizabeth drove and got grubby maintaining an ATS ambulance in WWII.
http://www.britishpathe.com/thumbnails.php?id=66011

R.

Vets Dottir

25-08-04 08:47

Re: Re: Great

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Originally posted by FV623
Let's not forget HM Queen Elizabeth II as the then Princess Elizabeth drove and got grubby maintaining an ATS ambulance in WWII.
http://www.britishpathe.com/thumbnails.php?id=66011

R.

Great, Master R. I didn't know this and thank you for the link.

An old friend of mine, years ago on the arm of her husband, got to attend the Queen's Ball ... young Princess Elizabeth, a tiny, tough and sturdy practical Taurus, well, I hope Janet knew this part of HM Queen Elizabeth's past while she attended the ball decked out in her ballgown and blown away by her experience:)

She (Queen Elizabeth) is so tiny! And what an amazing experience that must have been for her. I'll bet she was a natural mechanic too. She always looks to me like she could tackle just about anything (or any-ONE!)

:salute:

Vets Dottir

11-11-04 02:58

Remembering ...

Lest We Forget
to remember our
Women Who Served :salute:

Karmen

Mark W. Tonner

15-11-04 16:18

Re: A New Book for MA YAPPY'S Library

Karmen;

Thought you might find this of interest:

Our Women In Uniform:
Honouring Aboriginal Women Veterans in Alberta
Published by The Institute for the Advancement of Aboriginal Women.

Go here for more information: Link

Cheers :)

Vets Dottir

15-11-04 16:44

Re: Re: A New Book for MA YAPPY'S Library

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Karmen;

Thought you might find this of interest:

Our Women In Uniform:
Honouring Aboriginal Women Veterans in Alberta
Published by The Institute for the Advancement of Aboriginal Women.

Go here for more information: Link

Cheers :)

Well, I'll be a monkey's MaMa :yappy: Finally caught up with this post :rolleyes: :D

I checked the link out Mark, and thanks so much. You're correct. I do want this book for my library!

I also love the name of the publishers, it somehow strikes a chord with me :D

"BUNKER TO BUNKER" Publishers

:smoker: Thanks for thinking of me and MLU to post this.

Karmen (This is for you and your Dad :salute: :salute: and Lovely Black Caddilacs Denise :salute: )

Mark W. Tonner

15-11-04 17:02

Re: Re: Re: A New Book for MA YAPPY'S Library

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Originally posted by Vets Dottir
Finally caught up with this post :rolleyes: :D

Why?, ...did you find it MOVING!.....:p .....eye exam time me thinks :D

Cheers :)

Vets Dottir

15-11-04 17:34

Re: Re: Re: Re: A New Book for MA YAPPY'S Library

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Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Why?, ...did you find it MOVING!.....:p .....eye exam time me thinks :D

Cheers :)

Yes ... yore leadin' Lil Miss Ma :yappy: on a merry run-a-round :D :p Me old wee bittie eys be fine HBM-OhOh ... yore cruisin' for a skillet bruisin'or something? :D

Vets Dottir

29-11-04 00:05

Re: Greatcoats and Glamour Boots

Quote:

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
Here is the book Mark sent me:

"Greatcoats and Glamour Boots"
Canadian Women at War (1939-1945)
by Carolyn Gossage

MARK and (others)

I don't recall if I ever mentioned this but a while back I fired off an email to Carolyn Gossage, the author of "Greatcoats and Glamour Boots" and told her about my AUNTY AMY, Dad's sister who served with the Navy in NFLD in WW2.
End result of that exchange was that Carolyn sent my Aunty Amy a signed copy of this book.

My Aunt was so happy to be surprized when she collected it from her mailbox. Amy said that was the FIRST time anyone ever showed her recognition and appreciation for her service :(

Aunty Amy was born about 1924 and its sad she's waited 60 years til so elderly before someone even thought to do such a small acknowledgement for her.

I'm glad I instigated this ... and MARK ... I wouldn't have, this wouldn't have happened if not for you.

See ..... play it forward.

Thank you Mark ... my Aunt was so touched.

hugs,

Karmen

Mark W. Tonner

29-11-04 01:22

Re: Re: Greatcoats and Glamour Boots

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Originally posted by Vets Dottir
Thank you Mark ... my Aunt was so touched.

hugs,

Karmen

Your Welcome!..... :D

Mark W. Tonner

07-12-04 02:53

Re: Women's Royal Canadian Naval Service

MA YAPPY;

Thought you might find this of interest: WRCNS

Cheers :)

Vets Dottir

07-12-04 06:51

Mark.

Hi MARK,

Thank you so much for this link. I was in here a couple of hours ago and visited it but while trying to copy/paste the link to send in an email to Aunty Amy, my old beast crashed on me. (BTW ... soon I'll be accessing a good computer and my old beast will be going to the Goodwill ... after all the years of amazing places and people, and information this incredible old thing has brought into my life ... it's time to let it go and move onwards and upwards. But it's with sadness in a way ... because I hold a great affection for something thats given so much I think I shall give it a WAKE! :note: :salute: :yappy: )

I don't know when you posted this last message and link because of the post being towards the "end of a page" so can only viewit via the reply function ... therefore, my apologies to you if you posted a long time ago and I missed it. Have been monopolized by many other things and not able to give MLU and YOU MEMBERS my full attention like in the past. I'll soon have more time again.

My goodness ...Little Miss MA :yappy: still has the yap left in 'er though, mark my words! :p

OH ...one day soon a frying pan may arrive at your door ... watch yore ankles hairy beast :D I've not forgot you ... though I'm inclined to wound less so you shall survive. Just may suffer a wee bit! :eek:

(Thanks much for the link! Great stuff Mark... HELLO to Lady D and Miss JM )

Karmen

Vets Dottir

14-04-05 15:11

Elsie MacGill

Hi Everyone,

Here is an interesting feisty woman, Elsie MacGill, who served WW2 :salute: in an interesting way ... (I hope someone didn't already mention her in this thread and I missed it? :rolleyes: )

http://www.inventivewomen.com/librar...cgill_on.shtml

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/05/0...5095172_e.html

Karmen

Crewman

01-05-05 16:10

:)

Here it is an ideal connection:
- woman
- war
- woman at war
- Case-made tractor for the MLUers who love these machines

:)

http://img139.echo.cx/img139/8243/case8bm.jpg

Crewman

03-06-05 13:54

No mercy at war in the foxholes, no mercy as well for the women and their age at home front.

http://img109.echo.cx/img109/5968/lc...1a349812dm.jpg
US Library of Congress LC-DIG-fsac-1a34981

Vets Dottir

16-08-05 05:49

Woman War Artist

Hi all,

I was browsing for War artists and came across a site that listed this Canadian woman Molly Lamb Bobak (1922-) doing yet another "kind" of job for her WW2 war service. I thought some of you would like to know about her as well.

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/war-...5100204_e.html

:salute:

Here, also, is the site I found this story in:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/war-...s/index-e.html

Karmen

Vets Dottir

10-02-06 23:58

Revival ...

Hello ... and here am I, bringing our Women of War to the top for us again ... :salute:

http://saltwatercity.bc.ca/ccmwac1.htm

:cheers:

Karmen

Vets Dottir

16-02-06 20:18

More about the women ...

Hi,

I hope this link isn't already posted somewhere, but I found this site with images of Canadian Nurses of WW2:

http://www.addison.ca/military_nurses/gallery.htm

:salute:

Karmen

Vets Dottir

24-05-06 04:37

Hello,

I really enjoyed reading this .... K. :)

Quote:

May 23, 2006

War vets meet after 30 years

By SANDY NAIMAN -- Toronto Sun

They were known as "the men behind the men behind the guns" but this was a badge of honour for the gals in the Women's Division of the Royal Canadian Air Force.

"They never thought to call us 'women.' They were so chauvinistic," said Geraldine Muter, 90.

"It was always all about the men," added Mary Rainville, 85.

Now, both widowed, Muter lives in the veteran's wing at Sunnybrook hospital and Rainville in the Tony Stacey Centre for Veteran's Care. But for 62 years, their lives have coincidentally crossed paths.

Yesterday decked out in their airforce blue and black plaid, their lapels heavy with medals, they reminisced over the yellowing pages of their scrapbooks.

These brave women, feminists before their time, are the unsung heroines of the war who rarely receive the attention they deserve.

"There were good times and there were bad times, too," Rainville said.

"We were inspected by Princess Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace and met the Queen Mother, but my hair turned white dodging buzz bombs and V2s," Muter said.

Rainville described one of her most gruesome tasks, sorting through the bloodied uniforms of dead soldiers after they were shot down.

They met only once in 1944 when they both were stationed in London and working in administration posts with the RCAF. It was a casual, inconsequential meeting and they never saw each other again overseas.

In 1957, they met for the first time since the war when, by chance, Rainville moved into a house next to Muter's in Sturgeon Falls, where their daughters became acquainted.

"That's really where it began and they've lived parallel lives since then," Rainville's daughter Maureen Cooling, 53, said.

Years later, both daughters happened to move into same Bayview and Eglinton neighbourhood in Toronto and started bumping into each other at local grocery stores.

"One day when I ran into Margaret Anne (Muter's daughter) I said, 'You look like your mother.' She said, I looked like mine. That's when I suggested they call each other. They have so few friends left. So since February they've been chatting on the phone," Cooling said.

Last month, they ran into each other again at an "Old Sweats" Legion dinner at the Tony Stacey Centre.

"It doesn't seem to matter how many years pass, whenever we see each other and start talking about the war, it seems like yesterday," Rainville said.

servicepub (RIP)

24-05-06 20:10

If you are interested in the various women's uniforms worn in Canada go to Women Warriors . I posted these pages some months back and have more to post but haven't found the time. Sigh!!!

Vets Dottir

24-05-06 20:23

Quote:

Originally posted by servicepub
If you are interested in the various women's uniforms worn in Canada go to Women Warriors . I posted these pages some months back and have more to post but haven't found the time. Sigh!!!

EXCELLENT Clive! :) It's really great to see what you've done and now we can all have a look at the uniforms. Thanks for the link and the attention to the WOMEN :D

I bookmarked the page! :cheers:

Karmen

Mark W. Tonner

24-05-06 21:14

Re: Women of War

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..... PMO-LAV, London...... the resident Supply Technician...... Master Corporal...what's her name ????......... :D

Cheers :)

Vets Dottir

24-05-06 22:32

Could it be Black Cadilacs Denise? (just guessing :p)

Ma Yappy

John McGillivray

29-05-06 04:13

On Every Front: Canadian Women in the Second World War

From the CBC Archives:

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-855/...war/women_ww2/

Vets Dottir

29-11-06 21:11

Hello MLU-ers,

I found this in my surfing today ... I'm glad to add more "Women of WW2" information :salute: :remember

http://www.nurses.ab.ca/museum/E2-WWII/WWII.html

http://www.nurses.ab.ca/museum/E2-WW..._in_Italy.html

Karmen

Vets Dottir

31-01-07 05:23

Re: Greatcoats and Glamour Boots

Quote:

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
Here is the book Mark sent me:

"Greatcoats and Glamour Boots"
Canadian Women at War (1939-1945)
by Carolyn Gossage

Hey Mark,

When I went to the library last week I actually browsed a lot of book titles where they keep all the War and Military stuff, and am glad to say they have quite a good selection of books. I'll have to check out the online library catalogue to see all what they have.

One book I was delighted to see on the shelf was "Greatcoats and Glamour Boots" :salute: It reminded me of how much I enjoy having my very own copy (thank you again ;) ) and how my Aunty Amy now has a copy inscribed personally to her by Carolyn Gossage (I spoke with Ms. Gossage and she sent my Aunt a complimentary inscribed copy)

I brought home 3 books, with lots of pictures :D ...

Testaments of Honour
Personal Histories of Canada's War Veterans
by Blake Heathcote
Forwrd by Richard Gwyn

Juno Beach
Canada in World War 11
Pierre Landry, Jack MacFadden, Angus Scully
A Penguin Digital Interactive book with a CD
c: 2003/2004

No Price Too High
Canadians and the Second World War
Terry Copp with Richard Nielsen
Forward by Barney Danson
(based on the television series)

I haven't had a chance to look through the books yet, but will.

:cheers:

Karmen

Darrell Zinck

10-08-12 04:15

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 15191)

And don't forget the Women Auxiliary Motor Service (W.A.M.S) - already 10,000 strong early on in the war.

I got this recently.....more for the "service" aspect of the pin than the Ford angle ( I hate the wife's Ford!). :D

It's only about 2cm across but has fine detail.

FYI

regards
Darrell

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