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Peter Duggan 21-03-15 16:09

Latest challenge
 
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Guys,

With the engine off being stripped down and magnafluxed, and the rolling chassis not yet back from the paint shop, I've now turned to some of the electrical system.

The Lynx has two main junction boxes, one in the crew compartment and one in the engine compartment. The one from the crew compartment is in pretty rough shape. I am trying to source some of the female connectors, without much luck.

Would anyone have some ideas where I could source some or better yet, have some they would be willing to part with ?

I was very lucky to acquire a full NOS loom from one JB to the other from Dirk L. . I am positively surprised at what is still available out there.

Here are some pictures of what I'm looking for.

Thanks again, Peter

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David Dunlop 21-03-15 17:19

Peter. You must be one big wiggle now waiting for the chassis to get back home! 😉

Not certain, but it would not surprise me at all if the junction box parts you need turn out to be common pre war Ford commercial items and if enough of the box itself has survived, it could be easily cloned. Might be worth a check with antique Ford parts suppliers or any of the companies out there doing repro vintage automotive wiring harnesses.

Just another thought. If the terminal strip itself is in good shape, maybe one of those wiring harness shops could rebuild it for you.

Cheers,

David

Peter Duggan 25-03-15 04:57

Home again
 
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Guys,

Got the rolling chassis back from paint, and I am quite pleased at the work that Dan Pearsoll did. Now I will mess it up adding parts.

Hard to believe that it was one year ago this month that the Lynx first entered the garage. It's been a great journey and the people and memories along the way have made it all worth while.

I have another order of electrical components coming from Dirk L., but I am still searching for the components to rebuild the junction boxes, so if anyone has any old Ford terminal strips lurking around their shops, please let me know.

Thanks, Peter

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rob love 25-03-15 05:28

I went through the same thing on the museum's lynx a couple years ago. I rewired it with bullet connectors, and also had a few of those bullet receptacles come off, or else work loose, causing heat.

In the end, any that were an issue I merely used unions to join the two applicable wires together. I had no luck in finding the proper terminal blocks. If you have any luck, let me know.

Peter Duggan 04-04-15 02:30

Satisfying
 
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Still awaiting the fate of the engine, so I started on the fuel system and cleaned up the old drive shafts and replaced the u joints. Small steps but quite satisfying. Never thought that I would get excited over an oil leak, but it's a few steps closer.

Peter

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chris vickery 04-04-15 07:17

Peter, looking fantastic, I am envious. :thup2:

I see your Lynx has the original tires fitted.
I ran the same ones on my 12 cab Ford cmp without issue, as they are basically solid rubber run flats.
As a tip for you, if you buy some tire blacking, you can get them looking as new. I don't imagine you are going to be putting many miles on her and I think having the period correct tires is great.

Peter Duggan 05-04-15 02:59

Tires
 
Chris,

Thanks for your comments.

You've touched the one subject that I have been procrastinating about - the tires. My first choice would be to keep the originals, but two of them are in quite rough shape. I'm leaning towards a set of ferret tires, if I can find them. I've also considered the NDT 9:00 by 16 and the STA 10.5 by 16. Haven't ruled any of them out, just yet.

Peter

Andrew Rowe 07-04-15 20:05

Tyres
 
Hi Peter, I have some NOS original 10.50 x 16 tyres and I thought about running them on the Lynx , but when you match them up they appear physically too big. The Ferret tyres you talk about are a good idea , but you will have to check weather they will fit on the CMP rims, there is a thread further back I believe with regards to British and USA tyres on rims , so you would have to check, I think it was the angle of the bead, so someone will enlighten us as to the differences. I do have a Lynx on 9.00 x16 NDT that appear to have fitted with no problems.

charlie fitton 07-04-15 21:35

connector
 
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Is this the one that you are looking for?

http://www.macsautoparts.com/store/m...aped-ford.html

Peter Duggan 08-04-15 02:45

Replies
 
Andrew,

Thanks for sharing your experience. The Lynx at the War museum, in Ottawa also has the NDT 9:00 by 16s, which look quite good, but I would like to replicate the chevron pattern on the originals, if possible.

Charles,

Looks right, but I am looking for the female connectors that mount to the terminal strip, not the male portion.

Thanks, Peter

rob love 08-04-15 05:00

I am also going through the tire dilemma on the museum's Lynx. If you can find Ferret tires, they would be the best. You have to skive a fair bit off the inside of the tire, but being that they are super heavy runflats, cutting through the beads cords will not effect the tire. I did it on a much heavier CMP (11,000 lb KL) and A-framed it from Moose Jaw to Winnipeg a couple times without issue.

The US non directionals are a pretty good second choice. The STA 10.50-16s may give it a bit of a dune buggy look. Our Lynx is currently on LSVW Michelen tires, which also have that dune buggy look.

I recently changed the museum's Dodge M37 over to the Michelen 8.26-16 Michelin radial as used on the G-wagons. They look great, but they do end up measuring slightly smaller in diameter and width. Of course, they lack the Chevron look.

Peter Duggan 10-04-15 03:13

Eureka moment
 
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After searching automotive parts shops on several continents for the missing connectors without any luck I decided to try out Minakers scrapyard which is just down the road from me. Randy, the current owner, went into the "inner sanctum" and in short order came out with some switches of an unknown origin, with the right connectors. Had to sacrifice the switches, but now have the right connectors. Nice to be able to rebuild the junction boxes and remain faithful to the original design.

Peter

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super dave 10-04-15 04:29

Right on, Now the next part on the wish list :drunk:

David Dunlop 12-04-15 14:10

Nice find, Peter!

Peter Duggan 04-05-15 02:50

Still kicking
 
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Guys,

Between a trip out west and spring time projects, not much progress. As a matter of fact while I was gone the engine slipped in the queue. Hopefully this month... The radiator is now gone out for rebuild. On the plus side I got the fuel tanks back and a slow but steady arrival of more parts. Garage time is still prime time.

Peter


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Peter Duggan 23-05-15 04:36

Banjo bolts
 
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Guys, At times I feel that life and mother nature is conspiring to keep me out of the garage. Now replumbing the brakes. I'm now looking for two "banjo bolts. Ford terminology is "bolt-front brake connector". They are 1/2"-20 by 1 3/8". Thanks to Rob Love I was able to source the wheel cylinders without an issue, but so far no luck with the banjo bolts. Then, as Super Dave says, on to the next hurdle. My Lynx manual has the part number as 91T 2276, with alternative as NA/BR 190014. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks, Peter

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Mike Cecil 23-05-15 05:06

MACs Auto Parts
 
Peter,

Try here:

http://www.macsautoparts.com/early_v...wheelbase.html

It's the correct bolt based on the number you provided.

Mike

charlie fitton 23-05-15 12:34

Nice work, Mike! - It don't get much better than that!

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chris vickery 23-05-15 13:21

MACs carries all types of old Ford parts which interchange with CMPs....

Peter Duggan 23-05-15 14:25

Thanks
 
Mike/Charlie/Chris,

Thanks guys. I'm going to have to learn how to do a better job of searching their website. Had talked to their staff as well, with no luck. Parts are now on their way, Thanks, again, Peter

chris vickery 23-05-15 16:49

Many times, the obsolete Ford parts you seek for a cmp will be elusive as part numbers from military manuals etc do not always match up. Remember, when the CMP line of vehicles were produced, manufacturers simply used what was already commercially available at the time; they did not re-invent the wheel especially when it came to components such as engine, transmissions and driveline items.
One odd item that I can think of is the Ford emblem which is found on the cab 11 and 12 CMP. it is actually a trunk emblem from an early 30's Ford coupe which was carried over to the CMP. Same goes for the emblem found on the dash of these same trucks- a commercial pattern chromed emblem painted over...

Grant Bowker 23-05-15 18:02

Chris,
Is this the emblem you mean?
http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_me...-standard.html
If it is, it's interesting to note that it seems to be reproduced by Bob Drake and sold by Mac's. Another example of the repro sellers all selling a common part.

Peter Duggan 17-06-15 02:52

More small steps
 
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Guys,

Life has kept me out of the garage for quite a while. When I do get my garage time, it feels like a sanctuary from this mad world. Finished off the brakes, with the exception of the master cylinder, which mounts to the hull floor. Went on an expedition to Dan McCaw's place in Coe Hill. Came home with a few bits and pieces and now have a pattern for my seat covers. Stopped at a Military surplus place on the way and got a couple of old kit bags for the material. Managed to paint and finish off some parts, the rebuilt/NOS/repaired shelves are starting to fill up and look respectable.

Peter

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Peter Duggan 21-06-15 04:50

Pleasant detour
 
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Guys,

While waiting the outcome of the engine, radiator and junction boxes, I acquired the remnants of both the back and seat for the drivers position, enough for good patterns. A local upholsterer/awning fabricator by the name of Jeff Church was able to fabricate some great seats and covers, material came from some old kit bags. Not on my current critical path, but a rewarding detour.

Peter

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super dave 21-06-15 18:23

Looking good. :thup2:

chris vickery 22-06-15 16:14

Peter
Looks great! When I did my first CMP I was fortunate enought to find a lady who actually worked for aplace during the war that made seat covers...

lynx42 24-06-15 01:48

Hi Peter, Nice seat covering. Is that the actual Lynx seat? My seat does not have those rails under it as in your photo as it has the seat raising mechanism. I will put up a photo for comparison tonight when I get home.
Keep up the good work.
Regards Rick.

lynx42 24-06-15 12:43

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Peter, here are a couple of photos of a Lynx I Mk.III* drivers seat I borrowed for a copy. Mine was a bit worse for wear as you will see on my restoration thread.

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Regards Rick.

Peter Duggan 25-06-15 02:45

Seats
 
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Rick,

I'm attaching a picture of what I started with regarding the seats. Only one half of the drivers base pan was left. The observers/gunners seat is even worse.

You are correct, the rails under the seat are not correct to the Lynx and they will be removed once I have the scissor-lift type base repaired or replaced. The rest of the seat is correct.

I'm deliberately deferring the observers seat until the Lynx is actually running.

I'm quite enjoying your "walk down memory lane", about your Lynx restoration. Must admit that I am glad that the Mark 11 reverted to a conventional system for brakes, accelerator and clutch.

Peter

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lynx42 25-06-15 04:22

Thanks Peter, I am enjoying my reminiscing about the restoration of my Lynx. The biggest problem is finding the photos, resizing them and only being able to put 5 up each post.

You will probably have yours finished before mine as ill health has stalled things for the last 18 months. Mine is about 1 week from finished but I haven't touched it since May 2014. We will get there.

Regards Rick.


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