Here's another
 

One from the collection - definitely a rear Ford transmission seal.

From what vehicle though?

Some pictures
 

Put the tail shaft in as well as handbrake and the rod to the back.
The rod turned into a brute of a job. :bang:

The clutch return spring is the black one in the pictures. Can anyone clarify that I have put the back of the spring in the right spot on the chassis?

Tony, the main shaft retainer comes in about 10 different options. Your one (based on the number I see) is probably not Ford? Maybe Chrysler or Clarke?

F15/F15-A Clutch return spring location
 

Hi Tony,

Cannot confirm location for an F15 but on the F15-A it goes into the small hole above the master cylinder. There is a similar hole above your master cylinder but more to the outside of the vehicle. It looks like the pull would clear the brake rod by an adequate margin in any case. Going through a hole also reduces the chance of it detaching from just being held by the the edge of the chassis. I could be completely off the mark but it is a possibility.

Just had another thought: I measured my clutch return spring and it is 10-1/2" long. If yours is the same length it would require stretching a lot more to fit into the chassis crossmember than to fit into the hole. This assumes the faces of both trucks crossmembers are the same distance from the clutch arm. If your spring is longer, then the crossmember most likely is the anchor point.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Ford F15- Clutch return spring location
 

Hi Tony,

Think the attached will confirm your location for the clutch return spring. Looks like the hole above the master cylinder based on the diagram.
Taken from the Australian Military Forces "Driver's Handbook for Ford"

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

There you go!
 

Thanks Jacques,

I think that is fairly definitive. I managed to find a stronger original spring as well so I will fit that up when I do the bushes in the clutch pedal and get it back on.

There is a bit of play in everything so I'm working on getting things back to somewhere near original clearance. The clutch pedal shaft keeps wandering over to the pedal side when I put a spring on so hopefully, doing this will stop the drift.

Thanks also Lynn for that information, I simply assumed it was Ford. Did not realise other manufacturer's used similar items.

By the way...
 

Have you got a picture of the cover of that Manual Jacques?

Driver's Handbook- Australian Military Forces
 

Hi Tony,

Here is the cover of the Handbook.

Also a photo of the brake and clutch springs for comparison. The clutch spring uses smaller diameter wire. The brake spring, typically, is unique to Cab 13 vehicles. Part No. *C29Q 2472. Both seem to be the same length however, about 10-1/2" to inside of hooks.

The clutch spring is Part No. 81W 7523, so it is not unique to CMP vehicles and a quick search found Van Pelt sales carries them. No doubt other suppliers do too.

Hope this is of interest to all.

Cheers,

Update
 

Thanks again Jacques for invaluable information.

I'm still getting my ducks in a row in regards to the engine so one of the little jobs that has been annoying me has been done. Mount the spare wheel carrier.

Main reason... to get it off the shed floor. Had to improvise for the Australian version as this truck was originally fitted with the Canadian 'Clam shell' type.

A couple of years ago I was beaten by about 15 minutes on line to the purchase of a Canadian Box. So I'll have to be content with what I've got.

This was my solution.

This spare wheel carrier I think was also for 20 inch Wheels and has been altered. Luckily the 10.5 x 16 inch Tyre juust fits.

Update
 

Thrust bearing installed with new grease pipe.
Local Pirtek guys were very good.
The fittings look almost identical to the originals.

Main event
 

For some reason I have been dreading the engine. I think mainly because I was dreading making a costly mistake.

Anyway... now I have made a start, I am really enjoying doing the rebuild.

Had an original engine stand (which is very well made) and it has been put into good use.

Valves done, clearances done (about 8 removals of each lifter to get them right). Solid lifters used. Egge is the brand of the stuff I was sent. Did not want to drill holes in the block cause I was worried I might clutz that up.

One piece guides and colletts. Original keepers for the guides used. Those mysterious O-Rings that came in the kit were put in - on a second go of course.

Still more
 

Crank and pistons installed as well.

Love this engine stand as you can lock the motor in any position you want to.

More to do... I'd better get out there!!

Discovery
 

Thought I was finished for the evening, but I wandered over to the passenger door and started to scratch at the top layer of paint.

Eventually I started to scrape back the top farmers paint to follow the lines of the disruptive scheme between the light stone and Khaki.

I thought it was my imagination at first - was that a 6 under the paint?

I couldn't help get the feeling I was scraping two layers of paint off not just one.

Went and got some Kerosene and rubbed it on the door.

Discovery
 

I feel like a bit of an idiot now.... but luckily I stopped when I did.

I went and grabbed some emery and finely started rubbing...

This is what I found.

Very satisfying to have have found the ARN on the door!!!

Well the first three numbers anyway - they match the one on the front shell.

I was told in the past, unequivocally, that Australian trucks never had the ARN painted on the door.

I think this is proof this is not the case.

ARN's 5646?
 

Hi Tony,

Nice discovery on the door. I had a look at the ARNs and may have narrowed it down. I downloaded the same ARN book in the course of researching my vehicle 55166.

Assuming 564 are the first three numbers, and the fourth looks like a 6, it could be one of the ten vehicles listed in the top group. If the fourth digit is a 5 then it could be one of the ones the lower group 5645-. The model type is the same as yours in both groups.

Cheers,

Never say never.

.... just very unusual.

Mike

ARN's and transmission serial numbers
 

Hi Tony,

Forgot to mention: If the transmission is the original one and it's s/n is one of the ones in the lists you will narrow it down to the exact vehicle.

Cheers,

Hang on!
 

Hi Jacques,

Way back in this thread when I started it.........

I posted a picture of the ARN in its usual position on the front shell.

Keith was able to find it in the records. Mike Cecil added some very valuable information about it as well.

Question for you Mike... what is your opinion/s on the ARN being on the door?

The colour the ARN is on is not the disruptive. But a khaki brownish colour painted over the disruptive. It then has the farmer green over the top of that.

Tony,

It struck me when you first put up the image of the door rubbing that the numerals were in an odd sort of style - the slope on the back of the 5, the curve of the front of the 4. These are hand painted, not stencilled, too.

From what you have said, the numbers are on the third coat: base coat, then KG3, with a disruptive of a sand colour (so early 42 cammo, which fits with its arrival in Aust) then the icky brown on which the numbers are painted.

I have seen a couple of doors with ARNs, (and a single ARN on the front bumper) but these were, from memory, on vehicles that remained in service post-WW2. In the case of 59651, it was hand painted as 59-651 for some reason. Keith's wandering through CMP heaven may throw up some more instances of ARN's on doors?

Your truck's entry in AWM126 appears to show disposal at war's end or soon after the war (red ink entry, etc etc) so I can't offer much more than there are always exceptions to the rule. Did the same icky brown cover the ARN on the front or was the ARN painted onto that, too?

Regards

Mike

Hi Tony,

My bad. Should have looked at the beginning of the thread.
Cheers,

And another on the doors
 

58394, written as 58-394, on the doors of an F60L Garage. Image taken January 1988 at Cowangie, Victoria. Disposal was at war's end in Victoria.

Looked like a nice straight, rust free cab chassis. Doubt it is still there. Wonder what happened to it.

Mike

Arn
 

You don't often see the ARN on the doors of Australian assembled CMPs, very unusual.

Milestone
 

Firstly,

Thanks Mike and Keith for the comments and photo's. Good to know there have been other trucks in service with the ARN on the door.

I am still pinching myself as this day has proved to be elusive over the past couple of years... but the engine is in!!!!

Still a long way to go and I hope it proves to be a successful start up.

But hey! I am very happy at this point in time.

Looking smart Tony. I like the engine paint colour. What exactly is it please?

Hi Lynn
 

Will take picture of can tomorrow.

My engine, it turns out is a '46 C69A and has had a postwar rebuild by Ford. Block has an AVR number on it to verify this.

Would also indicate it is not the original engine. So I guess I am using a bit of licence with the colour selection.

It is a Ford blue and may have come out a little later but I do believe some of these rebuilds did use this colour.

Paint
 

Here it is Lynn as promised. Engine enamel in a can.

AVR number for the record and another stamping that I am not familiar with.

"N54****P" number has been issued by NSW Police as an engine identifier, as the other visible stamps do not conform to the standard engine number format as recorded by the NSW DMR. An old practice that is no longer followed these days. The first 2 digits indicate this number was issued by NSW Police in 1954.

Quick update
 

Firstly..

Thanks Tony. That's very handy information to know. I'm not sure I would have ever found that out. Will be interesting to see if the RTA have any records of this truck and engine number.

Doesn't look like a lot of progress but I have been putting in some hours.

Figured out (with the aid of an excellent tutor) how to set the points.

I bought a timing fixture at a swap meet yonks ago and managed to track down a set of instructions on how to use it. John and I did two dizzy's and the fixture got them absolutely spot on.

Timing
 

Good to see old skills being passed down the generations. Nice to see John at work and the progress on your F15 as well.

And that is exactly how Kitchen Tables are meant to look, Mum! :thup2: