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SteveJ 29-12-15 03:56

Wanted Deactivated or replica
 
Looking for a deactivated or replica Canadian C1 SMG for display. Anyone know of any?

Thanks :no4:

maple_leaf_eh 29-12-15 04:19

Rob Love and I went back and forth a couple times on this.

There are precious few privately owned C1s in Canada. And even fewer sell as deacts.

There are more British Sterlings, of various marks. More sell, but are very expensive.

http://www.collectorssource.com/deac...esc&order=name

There are Airsoft (cough, hack, spit) copies of the Sterling that will run less than $500. Shop around, there seem to be several models in plastic and/or metal.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/fo...-blasters.html

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=160881

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...SL_MK4_AEG.htm

Good luck!

Robin Craig 29-12-15 05:01

why has no one told Steve that a replica is a criminal code offence?

rob love 29-12-15 05:35

Owning a replica is not a criminal offense. However, making, buying, or importing one without the proper license (ie museum, movie) is a criminal offense. So is improper storage and transportation. They have to be locked up just like a restricted weapon at home, and transported in a similar manner.

None of the above rules apply to deactivated guns. Importation of those is a bit of a catch-22 though.

Agree with Terry on this one. Settle for either a deactivated British Sterling (expect to pay from $1500-$2000 +++. ) or else buy an airsoft. I looked into the Sterling Airsofts and I think you will have to order it with the "booster" kit. To legally enter the country and not be considered a replica, it must shoot over 365 feet per second in order to cause bodily harm.

One other alternative is to purchase the Sterling Police Carbine. They are restricted only, and there are 50 or so in Canada. They can be had for between $4K to $5.5K when you can find them. However, you will then have the permit problems with where you might like to take it to display it.

SteveJ 29-12-15 08:11

Thanks for the help guys much appreciated. I get something figured out.
:thup2:

jeff davis 30-12-15 02:49

Airsoft
 
Above 450 ft per second Airsoft is allowed unless they changed the rules. Princess auto was selling sweet Thompsons
Regards
Jeff

rob love 30-12-15 04:42

The threshold for airsoft was dropped down to 365 feet (I might be out a foot or so) about a year back if I recall correctly. The RCMP tested against a pigs eye to see at what threshold it could cause serious bodily harm, and therefore be a firearm and not a replica. Poor pig!


Edited to add; Looks like the threshold is 366 fps and it dates back to 2012.


Here is a link to the RCMP reference: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm

And a quote:

3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.
In particular, some air guns commonly known as air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal. An airsoft gun, firing a .20g 6mm plastic pellet with a muzzle velocity below 111.6 m/s (366 fps), and resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, other than an antique firearm, is a replica firearm and therefore a prohibited device.
Although replica firearms are prohibited, individuals may keep those they owned on December 1, 1998. It is not necessary to have a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, an individual cannot import or acquire a replica firearm. If a replica firearm is taken out of Canada, it will not be allowed back in.
The Criminal Code sets out penalties for using a replica firearm or any other imitation firearm to commit a crime.


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