ID this Trailer Chaps
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Found by a fellow MLU'er in his travels around this district.
We havent a clue, but it appears to be military. Perhaps it had a massive search light on it? :confused :confused |
What a find it is a GL Mk111 c radar trailer and untill this post I thought I had the only one left in the world.The house that went on top of it contained all the electrics and two radar dishes.The whole shelter turned on top of the trailer and in the photos you can see the rounded part at the rear of the top deck to give the shelter clearance to turn.There is a lot of info on this forum about the trailers and the radar.Australia had about eighty as far as I can tell.Does it have a ARN ? The radar was made by REL in Canada in about 1943
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Thanks Ken - that is .... well, what can I say?
You fellows on this forum never cease to amaze me. This forum continues to be the best way to expand ones knowledge of the Military equipment world. For the record, myself and the chap who found it have no interest in gaining financially from its discovery or finding out what it actually is. Any photo's Ken of a complete example?? |
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I take it we'll soon see it gracing the grounds of Elliott Manor in Ganmain?
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The only complete ones I have seen photos of I found by searching radar on this forum,but your photos have answered quite a few questions about my trailer plus brought up a few more.All the photos show the trailers with single wheels on the front but mine and "yours" both have duals,mine did use to carry a Cat D6 around though and I know that the previous owner fitted the extra wheels at the Gold Coast before they brought it home in the late 1950,s.
When I got mine the previous owners had all the radar shelter turntable , tool boxes and stabilisers that they proudly gave me. I am missing the adjustable feet which I see that "yours" has.I would like to know how the single wheels were fitted to the dual wheel hubs,does any one have a parts book for one of these trailers? Cheers Ken |
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Cant help with the parts book but would love to see some photo's of the original trailers during their time in service. Sounds like you better come and grab it Ken. The lurkers on this forum have now seen it so be quick... Keefy...I like the way youre thinking. |
Radar Trailer
One of my mates has two of these parked in his yard, thought they were Radar, now we know for sure!!. Both of them have singles on the front and duals on the rear. No legs though, or data plates. I wonder what happened to the "House" off all of these??. Perhaps turned into a store room on a farm.
Look forward to some photo's, then we can clean up one of them and get it on display in the Museum. |
Nov 24, 2010 we had three threads active on radar trailers. I found one link but the other links within that one didn't go anywhere for me this morning.
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Thanks Local Chap this forum is amazing at bringing the impossible to reality.I have never seen the Shilo photo,s before .I have gone from thinking I had the only REL radar trailer, to now they are like mushrooms popping up every where it is wonderfull to see. I suppose if we had the whole outfit we would have a couple of FWD HAR 01s and a C60L.
Has anyone found an ARN on any of the Australian trailers? Cheers Ken |
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No Ken - are there any data plate positions on these trailers you may know about? Serial numbers? etc?
Perhaps a standard position that they painted the ARN & we may be able to rub or wet the paint to see what lies beneath..... |
Tony the only data plate I have found is a tiny one on the turntable which is the Research Enterprise Limited data plate and that doesn't have much info on it. I haven't found anywhere that a plate might have been on the trailer and no sign of a ARN,I have a feeling I read some where that the trailers were made by one of the Canadian mainstream trailer makers.I haven't found any numbers stamped straight on the frame but I will have another look when the ground dries out and I can get up the paddock.
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The radar units were rego'd into the Aust Army in two batches of ARN's (which would tie in to the two Canadian contingents arriving into Sydney and Melbourne) in the ARN ranges of 123801-123960 (Vic) and 146001-146250 (NSW) and 147737-147843(NSW) in various blocks. I have seen one of these trailers on a block not all that far from me a couple of years ago, and I recall at the time it had a sheet brass Data Plate on the right hand frame of the front axle dolly. |
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GL III (c) gunlaying radar
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The last picture in the last post by "alamotex" has me thinking.
I know I have seen that trailer around here, somewhere, in the last 2 years but cant figure out where, now I'm kicking myself. I am, by my own admission, not a WW2 buff but do recognise odd things. Now I will have to fire up the Mk1 brain memory and think if I can track where I was. R |
Robin I note your address as Kingston, ON ? Would be most interested if your recollection of seeing a ZPI trailer, turns out to be close to home. The folks at the C and E Museum have never mentioned it. In my post #23 I incorrectly refer to the Australian War Museum..that should be the Australian War Memorial.
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I have had the benefit of a small nap since my last post.
I am now absatively posalutely sure I have seen one of these. It is being used somewhere to house a generator. I'm fairly sure it was in a quarry and had to be mobile, and give weather cover, which it does. I think I saw it in the last 2 years. It may take me while to figure it out but leave that to me now, but don't hold your breath as it wont be that soon! R |
Wow! This HAS been a fascinating series of posts! And who would have thought that our - sorry, that should probably be 'their' -own Sir Tony of Ganmain would be the initiator? I say, well done, Sir Tony! :thup2:
Now for my 'tuppence-h'penny worth', to coin a pre-decimal phrase. All the Canadian Radar trailers sent to Oz that I have found record of, and the prime movers and support vehicles, fall within the ARN range 145959 to 146058, and 147737 to 147761. (There are none in the range 123801 to 123960: these are mostly CDN Lynx Scout cars). I have not counted them as yet, but will do so once the update is done (see below). When I originally extracted the info, it didn't mean a lot other than to be 'unusual' and include some Chev CMPs which were my prime interest in that datablock. The radar sets were a pain to 'decipher' as they were described and registered simply as 'Trailer, Radar A' and 'Trailer, Radar B', so I didn't really have a clue what they were. But now, thanks to this post, I can put the 'A' and 'B' against the actual type. As the manufacturer was also recorded at the time, it nails each one down nicely: I think an update to the database is now needed, which will give me a total of each item. Excellent work, gents, and I have to agree: the knowledge base on this forum is outstanding! :salute: Mike C |
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Sir Anthony, 1st Earl of State 'o Main?
And his post nominals? Must be KCMG (that's 'Knows Canadian Military Gear'), and how about 'MM' (Much Militaria) and the classic 'VD and Bar' (that's actually 'Victorian Decoration' and stands at the Bar!) :D Mike C Lowly Peasant of Colbert |
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We could also add S.I.R. after it as well for Seriously Into Rust :D
In my case S.I.R. stands for Seriously Irrisistable Roo! |
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