stuck clutch
 

Mark Sierant went to get his blitz out of the shed and his clutch was stuck and he couldn't free it, I gave him some suggestions but they didn't work, after a frieghtening experience, and some fencing repairs he put it back in the shed. I would've liked to have seen the look on his face and someone to check his under wear when he got back to house. Has anyone got any suggestions that he could use to free up this clutch. Poor poor Russell.

Max

So what's stuck?
1. Pedal won't depress at all.
2. Pedal depresses with no resistance.
3. Pedal depresses, but clutch doesn't release enough.
4. Pedal depresses, but doesn't spring back.

Well, assuming the pedal goes down...
 

... but the clutch doesn't release.

Standard solution is to block the pedal completely down, put the transfer case in neutral (assuming it has a real one and not just one of those that disconnects the front axle) and then run the engine to warm it up.

When it's warm, stick the transfer case in low range, and with the pedal still blocked down start it in first and just crunch round slowly till the clutch decides to break free, using the ignition switch and brakes together in case of scary moments.

Remember to block the pedal down again after it's freed off to prevent it happening again.

Gordon

I've had that
 

It happens occasionally in the C60S after it's been standing for some time.

The solution is to get the whole thing warmed up then start it in first (in a safe area) and with the clutch pedal depressed powering on then backing off - it usually frees up quite readily.

The Ultimate Stuck Clutch
 

Fellas this clutch is stuck solid though it worked fine 5 months ago. The truck is a F15A with no low range. just the front axle engage of the transfer.
Here is my attempts after advise from MAX

Loaded the trucks water tank that hold 1200 litres and tied with a snatch strap to a Hilux 4 x 4 locked in low range first. I took off in the Blitz clutch pedal to the floor. All I ahieved is about 15 feet of draging the hilux before the engine stalled.

Next added a pajero 4 x 4 to the back of the Hilux with the wife standing on the brakes. The result, managed to move the combined wieght about 7.5 feet befor the engine stalled and the clutch was still stuck. The Hilux now has a much bigger loadbed but is a little narrow in the mid section.

Drove around the paddocks for about 7 hours spraying my weeds without a clutch when I decided to Have another go. I tied the Blitz to a big old yelow box tree with a doubled up snatch strap, I had about 20m clearance to the fence at full lenght of the strap. I tried driving forward in first a couple of time with my foot on the clutch to the floor, nothing happened.

I got enthusiastic about freeing the clutch backed back to the tree and took of with both pedals flat to the floor in second.
And then it happened I broke the sound Barrier in a Blitz and went supersonic.
The strap streched to its limit and then some more I blacked out I think at this point because the next thing I knew I was in my neighbours paddock. The blitz had accelerated to Mack 1 according to the neigbours. They all heard the Crack and I had launched through a dip and only broken the top two wires on the fence so about 2.5 feet of the ground in a Blitz.

Well the strap was 40 foot long now all I can find is about 5 feet of it. This piece had slowed down as it cut through the Poly fittings on the pump on the rear of the Blitz and dented the tank.

The Clutch is still stuck.

Anyone got any other ideas ( not you Max)

:fry:

Re: The Ultimate Stuck Clutch
 

Hhhmmmmmm....
First...What makes the clutch "Stick"..??
Throw out(ReleaSE)bearing stuck or disintigrated and not pushing on the pressure plate.??
Springs gone in the pressure plate..??
Clutch stuck to the pressure plate??
Not releasing from the transmission output shaft..??
Not engaging the output shaft??
Sounds like a "rip 'em out and fix 'em" job to me...
Start here..
:drunk:
NOw get this out...

Russel's adventures
 

Sounds great, Mark... can you wait until I get there with the video camera and repeat the action?

I want to win the grand prize for funniest home videos!

Seriously, I think Alex is right - it would seem to be something more than just a sticky clutch plate.

But Max, keep those ideas coming.

Engine out, I'm afraid.

Russells adventures
 

My instructions were to use a chain, not a bl**** snatch strap.I have witnessed Russell using a snatch strap before.
Are you sure that the cross shaft that is conected to the thrust bearing fork is moving as you press the pedal.
Max

That Clutch won t Budge
 

Eveything is moving into the Bell housing but the clutch will not pop.
PS thanks for reminding me, werent you going to get me a new snatch strap after I broke that one pulling the Chev up that hill.:D

With the inspection plate off the bottom of the clutch/flywheel housing, have someone depress the clutch pedal all the way. Then pry the disk away from whichever side it is sticking to. You should see the gap on the free side.
A small flat tip screwdriver should achieve this. You will likely have to turn the flywheel and pry it in a couple of spots. You may have to adjust the peddle for maximum travel to get this to work, and you'll have to remember to re-adjust the pedal for freeplay afterwards.
I have seen stuck clutch disks before, usually from water submersion, but also just from sitting. If you were to disasssemble the whole clutch, you would be surprised how little it has to stick to be siezed.

Not being a chevy man, I'll assume it has the inspection cover on the bottom of the housing. If not, you have to do all the work through the little drain hole on the bottom of the housing.

Good luck!

Be a jerk
 

Try jerking back and forth but make sure Rowena Flynn and Laura stay inside.;)

Jerking
 

If I stuck to Jerking back and forth there would be no Flynn or Laura to leave inside.

I have now taken this stuck clutch to a new level we better move to the Sargents Mess

jerking
 

Russell you are really showing your brightness of course Keith means jerking the blitz and nothing else.

Max

How does this work? I just wrote a reply and while in the middle, I scrole down to see Rob has already replied. I delete mine. I go back and Rob's is not there. I started this, and now when I scrole down there are three more posts after Rob's.

Reply Times
 

The Aussies are always a little ahead of the Kiwis, all three replies after Robs are from Aus. The internet connection to Kiwi only cuts in when no else wants to pay for the line.

PS I work for a Telco so I am not "battering the sav" on this one

Well, that officialy counts as 'stuck' then...
 

Pull the bottom inspection plate off the clutch housing, and work something like a flat-bladed paint scraper up between the clutch plate and the flywheel maybe?

If that doesn't work it's time for the spanners and just pull it out.

Gordon

I'd loosen off the pressure plate bolts to get some space for that scraper before I pulled it to bits. By the way Mark, Always is probably the wrong word.-- Did you see the N.Z./Aust netball game the other week?

Netball
 

Did the Silver Fern win?

Fords like Mark's F15A don't have a bottom inspection cover on the clutch, you have to remove the whole sump pan to access the clutch disc and diaphragm. There is a small inspection cover on top of the bellhousing, but that only lets you see what's going on, you can't get in there and pry on the clutch disc.


Yes, but the Kiwis played a bunch of Girls! Have to get the Topp Twins in to coach them again.

Had same problem a couple of years ago with the C15A used in the banana farm. Turned out to be the "fingers" in the pressure plate had cracked on one side so no release of pressure. When pedal depressed, p'plate would tilt. Gearbox out job. Replaced the pressure plate and works like new again. Took short tailshaft to t'fer case out, slid G'box back and out, then p'plate off.

Hooroo Charlie

Lucky Chev owner
 

When the men at Ford went to work with what Ford parts could be cobbled together they found a sump tray that also covered the bellhousing. Then in an act of divine wisdom they rear mounted the gearbox to a cross member so that it could never be moved backwards. This is the gem of Fords engineering department.

But in their defence they did produce a sweet preasure fed V8 while the Chev got a splash fed Lump that rattles from iddle through to 2800RPM.

Off to Yass with you
 

Mark, Max has the truck for you! I'm sure he'll swap this 1945 model which you can take the gearbox out of backwards for your F15A.

He's restored it to accurately represent a well-used sawmill vehicle:

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/F60L/MH...MH%2060L-1.jpg

Here's the set-up you're after:

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/F60L/MH...MH%2060L-5.jpg

And note how carefully Max has crafted this front shell:

http://www.oldcmp.net/Images/F60L/MH...MH%2060L-7.jpg

1945 model
 

and it goes, just gotta fix the brakes
Max

Re: Off to Yass with you
 

The craftsmanship is magnificent! It looks so real.:D

Re: Re: Off to Yass with you
 

We all know Max is an artist.

I had to bite it to make sure it was real too. Broke a tooth.

Not sure how many hours he has put into getting the paint job so good - more like man-years I think.

Imagine, just a few wheel cylinders and master cylinder, a bit of pipe and a few hoses and she'll be ready for Corowa 06.;)

Re: Re: Re: Off to Yass with you
 

"Year of the :dh:"?