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Yeo.NT 07-09-15 03:44

Car, Heavy Utility, 4x2 (Ford F8)
 
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Gentlemen

I have a conundrum that I am looking to build a vehicle build on the Ford 11/12 cab F8, I already have the base vehicle to begin. The issue is the bodies were build in the Uk by two coach companies Mulliner and Stewart & Ardern. Is there anyway to find out if either of these companies kept the blueprints/plan even if these companies have been absorbed or gone out of business?

What information I have already gleaned what information from another post here http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...p?t=461&page=2

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Hanno Spoelstra 09-09-15 23:04

Neil,

Sorry for my late reaction, been very busy lately. Anyway, I really like your plan for the F8 you recently bought!

As for original blueprints, I would follow up the leads posted in the earlier thread on this type of vehicle. Then, contact:
  • the RAF Museum, as I think they ordered the conversion: http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/
  • National Motor Museum: http://www.beaulieu.co.uk/
  • local municipal museum(s) of the towns where Duple and Stewart & Ardern were located; they may have taken over files when the companies closed or moved.
And buy a book on coach building, to learn about the tips & tricks of building a coach-built body.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra 10-09-15 09:09

Some info on Stewart & Ardern:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunard...art_and_Ardern

Looks they were still around in 1968:
http://archive.commercialmotor.com/a...rdern-stand-48

And could this be it today (a non-trading company, but still)?
http://www.allcompanies.co.uk/catego...roperties.html

Alex van de Wetering 10-09-15 11:24

Mulliner still exists and is now part of the Bentley (Volkswagen) group. They are responsible for the custom ordered Bentleys. I contacted them years ago for info, but didn't have any luck. (also had a vision of making a replica....and still fancy the idea) "we never built this vehicle". I think your best bet would be the many pictures that are posted here on the forum.
As far as I know all were based on 12 cab F8's and all were used by the Brits and US.

Like the idea! Please keep us updated.

Alex

Phil Waterman 14-09-15 23:39

Photo for sale
 
just spotted on e-bay

sorry can not seem to copy and paste the URL search e-bay US

Chevy C8 CMP Canadian Military Pattern Truck Airfield England Orig WWII Photo

Cheers Phil

PS typing one handed and can not hit the command keys.

Gordon Yeo 14-09-15 23:56

HUP picture on E-pay
 
Must be one heck of a big picture, it will cost $38.00 to ship it!!!!!

Wasn't there some thing on here about e-bay lately?

Phil Waterman 15-09-15 00:54

not that I would do a screen copy
 
Hi Gordan

Yes, agree epay is going to crush it self with unreasonable shipping fees and other added fees.

Unfortunately, things like $38 shipping will mean that things like this type of photos will end up in the trash because there will be no market.

But as long as it lasts, will have couple of searches running, for historical research purposes, an if a screen grab goes into my private research file, well.



Cheers Phil

Hanno Spoelstra 15-09-15 07:08

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This one? Great find!

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-C8-CMP-C...124?nav=SEARCH

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Keith Webb 15-09-15 07:44

F8
 
And it's a Ford to boot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 214088)


Bob Carriere 16-09-15 02:21

I got a bid on it......
 
Shipping to my UPS address in upper NY is $3.60.

If I get it .... it's yours Gord.......

EPay sucks unless you know some of the loop holes.

..and if I don't..... I think I now have it on my PC.

Hang in there

Yeo.NT 05-10-15 00:42

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Just a quick update on my research thus far. I have contacted a few museums with not much luck so far but I did receive a little information from the RAF Museum.

Dear Mr Yeo,
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately, outside of the entry in the Data Book of RAF Vehicles, we have virtually no information of the CO11DF.
I think the it all hinges on who designed the body, there may be some references amongst the British Motor Industry Heritage Trust records held at Gaydon. I know they have the minutes and some correspondence for Mulliner, these may reveal where the design originated from which will help you track down any plans..
Sorry we could not have been of more help.
Sincerely

Bryan Legate
Assistant Curator
Archive & Library
Royal Air Force Museum London

Yeo.NT 25-10-15 06:25

13" Rims
 
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As most people know the 13" rims and tires for the 8cwt are hard to find. The tires that are available tend to be agricultural tire and not road legal. My issue is the rims on my truck have had the "Farmer" modification where the rims have been cut and butchered into 16" rims.
On previous thread http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d.php?p=212345 Super Dave mentioned mating the 13" rims with standard 15" trailer rims, so far everything is lining up making a much stronger and safer rim then what I have now.

Yeo.NT 30-10-15 23:54

New Tires
 
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I've been tinkering away and have almost got my F8 sitting on new rubber, I have just one more rim to weld together. Once she is able to roll I will get a few more pictures of it inside and out

Ganmain Tony 31-10-15 02:52

Rims and Tyres
 
Very nice job Neil.. well done!!

Yeo.NT 06-08-16 23:14

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Had a lovely sunny day and decide it was a good idea to pull the old girl out for a few photos and tinkering. Roof will be cut at damaged section and stored until needed

1. outside for the before pictures
2. Damage from the prairie winds
3. Test fit the hood from Bob Carrie
4. Roof off, my girlfriends son Ethan is my helper this weekend
5. Stash of parts that I brought home from Ontario

gordon 07-08-16 12:07

Better late than never
 
I should have thought of this the first time I saw the thread. I don't have a clue who to ask for wartime Mulliner RAF bus drawings, but I know someone who does ...

The VK62B Dodge belonging to Rick Jones had a wartime Mulliner body, and as you can see here;

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/dodgehistory.htm

... he got a copy of the body drawings from somewhere. Find Ricks e-mail - he is the admin of that site, and ask him where he got the body drawings maybe?

Yeo.NT 08-08-16 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon (Post 227358)
I should have thought of this the first time I saw the thread. I don't have a clue who to ask for wartime Mulliner RAF bus drawings, but I know someone who does ...

The VK62B Dodge belonging to Rick Jones had a wartime Mulliner body, and as you can see here;

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/dodgehistory.htm

... he got a copy of the body drawings from somewhere. Find Ricks e-mail - he is the admin of that site, and ask him where he got the body drawings maybe?

Gordon

Thank you for this suggestion, I will contact him and hopefully he can direct me to the right people.


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