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pkitson 02-03-08 15:31

88 PaK
 
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I know this was used by the "other side", but it is a rare gun. This piece sits in Kingston, on the RMC campus.

zemsi 02-03-08 18:27

... hmm, it doesn't look to me like a German 88,m Gun to. Do you mean this one on wikipedia?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...AK36-37L56.jpg

pkitson 02-03-08 19:14

The gun you are referring to is a Flak gun, anti-aircraft, although it was often used for anti-tank work. This gun in Kingston is a purpose built PaK gun for anti-tank use. The breech bears the Nazi proof stamps and serial numbers.

Hanno Spoelstra 02-03-08 20:37

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Perry,

You're right, this is a 8.8-cm PaK 43 AT gun - an awesome and rare beast. Thanks for sharing the pics!

I snapped a 8.8-cm PaK 43/41 last summer here in Holland. It is on display in the town of Susteren, Holland, where it was knocked out of action.

Hanno

pkitson 02-03-08 22:24

I believe this version is Krupp built, PaK 43, on the 4 legged platform, similar to the Flak mounts. The information I have states that production of guns out stripped production of mounts, so as a stop gap measure, some guns were mounted on a conventional 2 wheeled, split trail mount ( PaK 43/41 ). Notice the absence of a recuperator over the barrel, and the vertical sliding breech block as opposed to the horizontal breech.

John McGillivray 03-03-08 03:20

Panzerjäger-Abteilung 200 of 21st Panzer Division had 24 8.8cm Pak 43 anti-tank guns in Normandy. There are some photos of them in Jean-Claude Perrigault’s book “21. Panzer Division”. In addition Flak-Abteilung 305, also from 21st Panzer Division had 8 8.8cm Flak guns.

Panzerjäger-Abteilung 716 of 716 Infanterie-Division had two 8.8cm Pak 43/41 along with nine towed 7.5cm Pak 40s and 10 7.5cm Pak 40s on tracked chassis.

The Canadian 3rd Division encountered troops from these two divisions on D-Day and the days following.

Note that the 8.8cm Flak guns were similar to the 8.8cm KwK36 L/56 mounted in the Tiger I while the 8.8cm Pak 43 and 43/41 guns were similar to the 8.8cm KwK43 L/71 of the Tiger II.

Alex van de Wetering 03-03-08 14:09

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Here is another batch of PAK 43's on display in the Ardennes, The greenish one is tucked away in Hochfels and the yellow one is on display in Troisvierges, both in Luxembourg

Alex

John McGillivray 25-11-08 02:56

A German 8.8cm Pak 43 under new management.

http://images.google.com/hosted/life...ea501ccbd4bf65

BSHEVLIN 26-11-08 08:08

thats the same gun that is mounted in the panther the 75 mm that flak gun at rmc

Roger Lucy 26-11-08 17:56

Panther gun
 
No it's not the same gun. The Panther had a 75mm L/70 KwK 42.

Ed Storey 27-11-08 01:48

Pak 43 88mm AT Gun
 
Here is another view of the RMC gun taken earlier this year.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...tsideviewR.jpg


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