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Mike K 17-03-08 11:07

HMAS Sydney found
 
The local media has gone into overload here . One TV station led the evening news broadcast with a story about a dumb footballer , the 2nd story told us that the remains of HMAS Sydney have been found .This tells you where peoples priorities are , here in contemporary Australia ....

Mike

Keith Webb 17-03-08 11:57

Lead
 
It's been the lead story on most news services - you must have been watching the 9 network!

And yes, it's a shame when some dopey failed former sporting crim grabs the headline from something really significant.

Keith Webb 17-03-08 12:09

HMAS Sydney
 
Here's a Link to the story in the SMH.

Hanno Spoelstra 17-03-08 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly (Post 95515)
The local media has gone into overload here . One TV station led the evening news broadcast with a story about a dumb footballer , the 2nd story told us that the remains of HMAS Sydney have been found .This tells you where peoples priorities are , here in contemporary Australia ....

Well, the story made it to the Dutch media. Maybe that is because we don't have dumb footballers . . . :rolleyes

H.

sapper740 17-03-08 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Webb (Post 95519)
It's been the lead story on most news services - you must have been watching the 9 network!

And yes, it's a shame when some dopey failed former sporting crim grabs the headline from something really significant.


Hopefully the Australian Navy will take a Minister to the site so the sailors can receive a Christian burial, it's the least they deserve and will help ease the minds of family members.
Speaking of former sporting crims, is Jacko still about? Derek.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 05-04-08 14:28

HMAS Sydney Update
 
In the Toronto Sun this morning....

Quote:

Lost ... and found
The Sydney, pride of Australian navy, located
By ROD MCGUIRK, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CANBERRA -- A remote-controlled submarine scouring the shipwrecked remains of an Australian warship has revealed new clues to a World War II battle that cost more than 700 lives. But the mystery persists: What caused Australia's worst maritime tragedy?

Did a well-aimed German torpedo sink the pride of the Australian navy? Or was it a catastrophic explosion in the ship's ammunition storage area that ensured that none of its 645 crew would survive?

Part of the puzzle was solved last month when a sonar search led by American shipwreck hunter David Mearns found the wrecks of battle cruiser HMAS Sydney and, nearby, Germany's converted freighter HSK Kormoran. Both vessels sank after the Nov. 19, 1941 battle, and previous attempts to find them proved fruitless.

Until now, the official record of the battle has been based on the accounts of German survivors who were captured as they drifted toward Australia in lifeboats.

The Sydney spotted the Kormoran as it was prowling for Allied merchant ships to sink, about 800 km north of Perth. The Australian vessel moved to intercept the suspicious ship and demanded that it identify itself. The Kormoran hedged, raising flags that claimed it was a Dutch trader and sending misleading radio signals. All the while, the Sydney was being drawn closer until it eventually lost the advantage of having longer-range weapons. The Kormoran eventually dropped the artifice, raised its German ensign and opened fire when the ships were within 1.5 km of each other.

Crews engaged in a furious exchange of naval artillery, torpedo and machine-gun fire for about half an hour, though Australia's official history says both ships were probably irreparably damaged in the first five minutes.

For years, the Germans' account of the battle was viewed with suspicion and left important questions unanswered. Among them: If the Australian ship was able to limp away -- aflame, but afloat -- why was there no sign that lifeboats were launched?

The first photos transmitted from the wreck show the Sydney's turrets still trained to its port side as they were when the Kormoran was in their sights.

All the cradles where the lifeboats once hung were empty.

Naval historian David Stevens said this does not mean the crew abandoned ship. The boats were tied to the upper decks and would likely have come loose as the ship sank. "They're the sort of stuff that gets really damaged when your upper deck is getting shot to pieces," Stevens said.

As the Germans said, the top of a gun turret was blown overboard by gunfire. One photo shows a hole blasted by a direct hit between its twin guns.

The Sydney's bridge section had clearly taken the brunt of the Kormoran's heavy gun barrage and an 25-metre section of the bow had snapped off around where the Germans recalled a torpedo struck with devastating effect.

"All you can say so far is that the Germans' descriptions are very accurate," Stevens said after seeing the initial pictures and searchers' reports.

The Sydney's fate has captured Australian imaginations for generations, and the hulk's discovery, announced by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, was splashed on front pages nationwide.

The government, which has spent $3.9 million on the search, has appointed a retired judge to hold an inquiry into the new evidence.

Some elements of the mystery are sure to endure. "Did the Germans machine gun people in the water? Did they raise their flag before opening fire? We're never going to answer those questions," said Jeremy Green, chief maritime archeologist at the Western Australian Museum.

Rod Diery 06-04-08 04:17

Photographs
 
The Finding Sydney Foundation web site has some excellent underwater photos of the wreck. For someone who has a deep interest in Australian naval history, I can tell you that these pics are very moving.

The web site can be found here.

Cheers
Rod


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