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Erwin

09-02-09 07:18

Dodge D15 camouflage pattern pictures?

- Anybody got camouflage pattern pictures of the D-15 with basic color sand?
Apart from those on the older D-15 thread two years ago?
Good lettering examples, badges etc?
- And: i need one GOOD windshield frame, mine are almost gone...
My restoration will be ready this year.
Erwin

zemsi

09-02-09 08:45

... is this your truck?

Source: www.old-dodge-trucks.co.uk/dodge_d15.htm

http://www.old-dodge-trucks.co.uk/do...ages/d15_1.jpg

Erwin

10-02-09 06:26

Yessir. And it´s under restoration right now.
Cheers, Erwin

Hanno Spoelstra

10-02-09 17:58

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Originally Posted by Erwin (Post 109364)

- Anybody got camouflage pattern pictures of the D-15 with basic color sand?

Hi Erwin,

Good to see you back here!

As for camouflage patterns, I would opt for a nice Italian theatre scheme, introduced in April 1943, which used bold patterns of black, or SCC 7 (a dark olive green), over a base of SCC 5 "Light Mud", plus an air recognition roundel on the roof. Buy Mr. Starmer´s book Sicily and Italy 1943-1945 for contemporary camouflage schemes and colour paint chips so you can have the correct colours mixed up.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra

10-02-09 18:04

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Speaking of new pics, I recently found this one on the net.

I like the truck, but the backdrop even better!

H.

Lynn Eades

11-02-09 22:05

Hanno,

Can you tell us a bit about it. what was it and where. Looks a bit dry for a flying boat.

scale-modeller

11-02-09 22:20

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 109458)

Speaking of new pics, I recently found this one on the net.

I like the truck, but the backdrop even better!

H.

Great photo!!! :thup2:

But it looks to me like the Do-24 is in need of some TLC... ;)

Would like to know the background to this picture though.... :)

Bob Carriere

12-02-09 03:20

Now convinced.....

Now that I have seen the photo the windshield frame was made up until to 1968 for the Dodge power wagon and into the early to mid seventies for the Fargo (Power wagon export model)....... all prone to rust badly in the bottom half....... repros have been tried but the many folds of the frame sheet metal would require a large investment in special multi stage roller dies.... best to find a good used one.....

Some specialty shop... in Connecticut.... Robert or Mitchel..... catered exclusively to Dodge truck collectors..... Phil Waterman or others may know who I mean....

Good luck.

Bob

Phil Waterman

12-02-09 15:08

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Originally Posted by Bob Carriere (Post 109532)

Hi Bob

Two outfits that come to mine:

http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com/ becareful to type the url correctly somebody has poached the address without the "s" and it will take you to an unrelated site.

http://www.robertsmotorparts.com/index.html I think this is the guy you are thinking of Bob.

Cheers Phil

Erwin

07-07-10 16:28

Dodge D-15

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This is my restored D-15.

- does anybody have good pictures of camo scheme BLACK or BROWN or GREEN blotches on the light stone?
-does anybody have a spare front bar incl. fitting for me? I know it could be made out of Jeep springs, but maybe somebody knows someone...

Cheers, Erwin

Les Freathy

12-07-10 08:10

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Thats a nice D15 Erwin, i am trying to locate a photo of the water tanker in Italy which i think will show the camo you are looking for, meantime heres a cracking photo of a D15 in Italy note the chalk mark `seconds` on the bumper
cheers
Les

Erwin

12-07-10 09:07

Camo D15

Very nice picture! Thanks Les.
Looking fwd to any camo pictures.
And:
Hanno has placed a few pics years ago showing D15s in Sicily
with the Roundel on the cab.

Is there any picture with the roundel on the bonnet?
Like the US white star?

Thank you for any PICTURE on PAINTING of a light stone D15:-)
Cheers,E

Ausmick

12-07-10 09:17

Nulli Secundus - not seconds????

Hi Les,

In Australia most WW2 army battalions had a 'nick name' for their battalion. One of these was the 2nd/2nd AIF battalion that a few of its members came from around my home region.

The nick name of the 2/2 was "nulli secundus" which was a Latin/ Greek word for ‘second to none’.

On the picture the word is written 'secundus' and has a white dot proceeding and following the letters. Looking at the chap standing on the left you can see a white dot the same and the start of a letter, just, to the left of his leg.

Just betting nulli secundus was written on it as a 'piss take' for the old dodge being 'second to none' other truck. I think a British battalion, maybe guards, used the same name as well.

Hanno Spoelstra

12-07-10 09:44

Hi Erwin,

Great to see your D15 restored! It must have been a tremendous amout of work; well done!

As for camouflage patterns, as said earlier I would opt for a nice Italian theatre scheme, introduced in April 1943, which used bold patterns of black, or SCC 7 (a dark olive green), over a base of SCC 5 "Light Mud", plus an air recognition roundel on the roof. Buy Mr. Starmer's books for contemporary camouflage schemes and colour paint chips so you can have the correct colours mixed up.

Perhaps except for the odd mistake, you will not find trucks with roundels painted on the bonnet. Go for one on the roof as intended.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

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Originally Posted by Mike Starmer (Post 80025)

Roundels as Air Recognition Signs were introduced in July 1942 for 8th Army vehicles. Optimum size was 10in centre red disc with 10in wide circles of white and blue. Yellow outer was 60% width of circles. i.e. 6in. Where there was insufficient room for this size then a roundel of smaller size and same proportions was to be used. Yellow may be omitted if that colour paint was not available. Placement was to be on any permanent upturned surface like hull decking, cab roof or solid lorry body. However in practice it was placed on canvas hoods were the vehicle was a COE type and open rear as on bridging vehicles.
The colours were not the dull RAF shades but bright shades as used for unit AoS etc. This roundel was used by 8th Army and Commonwealth forces in Sicily and Italy until cancelled in about April 1944 when the white star was generally adopted. Having written that, a white star was placed on tanks and vehicles of 48 RTR in Tunisia in Nov. 1942 and a number of other units seem to have adopted it too during that campaign.

Erwin

12-07-10 14:23

Thank you Hanno

for the roundel info. Your answers are always precise!!!!!!!!!!!!:-)))
Sorry for yesterday evening! :-((

Just contacted Mike Starmer and ordererd the Sicily/Italy book.

Anyway:
I still appreciate

ANY ORIGINAL PHOTOS of WARTIME CAMO PATTERN on a D-15.
Also MARKINGS - military police or royal air force would be my favourite.
Cheers, Erwin

Hanno Spoelstra

12-07-10 15:30

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Originally Posted by Erwin (Post 133425)

Also MARKINGS - military police or royal air force would be my favourite.

Erwin,

We will keep looking! See http://www.imagecontrol.com.au/oldcmp/craddock_1.html for a couple of pictures of a D15 in RAF service. Looks plain Light Stone, so no need for you to camouflage the Dodge.

Hanno

Hanno Spoelstra

12-07-10 18:26

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 133408)

Perhaps except for the odd mistake, you will not find trucks with roundels painted on the bonnet. Go for one on the roof as intended.

Well, here is one of those exceptions to the rule! Would the D15 in the background be a naughty truck as well? :D

Les Freathy

13-07-10 22:52

Thanks for that Mick, think i need to get my bloody glasses cleaned

Frederic

22-07-10 12:41

Hello,
Very nice restored Dodge :thup2:

Here you can see old topic about Dodge D 15

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1249

Best regards

Frédéric

Here my Dodge D15 scale 1/35 !

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/x...5/P1040933.jpg

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/x...5/P1040932.jpg

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/x...5/P1040931.jpg

Erwin

10-08-10 18:20

Light stone!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 133439)

Well, here is one of those exceptions to the rule! Would the D15 in the background be a naughty truck as well? :D

Always an exception to the rule!

After following Hannos recommendation and buying Mike Starmers very good Italy-camo book I find the new basic color as of 1943: Light mud.
However my vehicle was definitely overall light stone when it came to Austria in 1945.
This I found out during restoration.

Mikes book contains a G.O. stipulating new disruptive colors, such as blueblack.
And also stating that color changes shall only be applied if color available.

Thus it might very well be if no light mud was avbl, the disruptive blotches were painted over the (old) light stone too. Right or wrong?

Again: I appreciate any pictures of D15s in camo paint on this thread. Thank you.
Cheers, E

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