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Libor Zachoval 12-05-12 18:13

Cab 11 and Cab 12 doghouse, 30 cwt frame
 
Hi guys
I am looking for some pictures of doghouses in Cab 11 and Cab 12, for both, Chevy and Ford. I am finishing both cabs in scale, but my reference on this part are rather poor and confusing, and any more info and pictures of these will be very welcome and much appreciated. Additionaly if anyone could help me with photos, drawings and dimensions of 30cwt and 3 tons frames, once again for both, Chevy and Ford. Anything helps. I am very new to this subjects, but I wanna get every details as accurate as possible.
Cheers
Libor

Stew Robertson 13-05-12 00:25

All the dog houses are the same from 15 cwt up in both Ford and Chev
Ford is a 2pc and chev is a one pc. the 11 and 12 cabs ones are different from the 13 cabs

cliff 13-05-12 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew Robertson (Post 164757)
All the dog houses are the same from 15 cwt up in both Ford and Chev
Ford is a 2pc and chev is a one pc. the 11 and 12 cabs ones are different from the 13 cabs

Stew you are WRONG! Ford and Chev are different as are the 11/12 to the 13 cab ones. They are however the same in Ford for the 15cwt to the 60cwt but different between 11/12 to 13 cab and the same applies to Chev.

:doh: God this is confusing :note:

Libor from what little I could see of the doghouse in your #11 cab Ford resin kit it is incorrect as are the front hubs for a 2 wheel drive F15. Glad to see you are trying to correct this doghouse issue before making the 30cwt kit.

cliff 13-05-12 02:47

Chassis
 
Libor I have rough drawings with measurements of the Ford 4 wheel drive chassis. The differences between the short (134in) and long (158in) chassis is a shorter difference in the length between the front - rear spring hanger and the large crossmember holding the transfer case. The SWB has one driveshaft and the LWB 2 with a fixed bearing at the join.

PM me your email address and I will send you what stuff I have which includes springand brake drum sizes as well as a scale drawing of the Ford chassis. May have measurements and drawings of the front drive axle as well.

Attached is a photo of my scratchbuilt 11 cab F60L (Aust) although I used the Tamiya Quad kit motor wheels and axles the cab is scratchbuilt as is the chassis and rear body.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...cab065copy.jpg

more pics here - http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n...60GS11CABAUST/

Lynn Eades 13-05-12 02:48

Cliff
 
There must be a more diplomatic way to say "You are wrong!"..... I just can't think how its done at the moment.:wacko:
I sympathise with you Stew. (in your wrongness) :salute:

cliff 13-05-12 02:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynn Eades (Post 164761)
There must be a more diplomatic way to say "You are wrong!"..... I just can't think how its done at the moment.:wacko:
I sympathise with you Stew. (in your wrongness) :salute:

Lynn I know there has to be a better way to say it but I could not think of it and I was trying to be diplomatic and not rude to either Libor or Stew. :)

Howard 13-05-12 04:09

More confusion...
 
G.Day Libor,
Just to add to your confusion... And I can only speak on fords,
The cab 11 is different to the cab12 is different to the cab 13.
However, the differences in 11 vs 12 are very small, mounting differently but the same shape.
Happy to photograph both for you (dissembled) if you like but will not be able to post for a while as I an out of broadband!
H :salute:

Mike Cecil 13-05-12 16:57

Hey, Cliff, very nice model, but I don't see a hatch on your Australian F60 cab ...... :kangaroo

PS: I looked up 'dog house' in my CMP parts lists and couldn't find it listed..... does it have a REAL name, per chance?? :giveup


Mike C

Mike Cecil 13-05-12 17:36

Come to think of it, was there ever such a thing as an F60L CAB 11 (Aust) ie an F60L cab 11 assembled in Australia, with Australian Army mods and with an Australian standard GS body?

I love a good debate, and this one will be interesting....... :devil:

Mike C

cliff 13-05-12 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Cecil (Post 164799)
Come to think of it, was there ever such a thing as an F60L CAB 11 (Aust) ie an F60L cab 11 assembled in Australia, with Australian Army mods and with an Australian standard GS body?

I love a good debate, and this one will be interesting....... :devil:

Mike C

Probably not Mike. I did this model as I owned a New Zealand F60 11 cab without the vents about 30 years ago. The model should have had an all steel rear body as per the factory specs but I like the wood of the Aussie versions. :)

ahleeds 13-05-12 19:18

pictures
 
5 Attachment(s)
Attachment 49075 These are both fords

Attachment 49076 the cab 11 has a lot of bolts holding every together

Attachment 49077 the cab 12 has quick access with slots

Attachment 49078

Attachment 49079
Anthony.
I just figured out how to put pictures up this way ,,,wohoo

Hanno Spoelstra 13-05-12 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahleeds (Post 164805)
I just figured out how to put pictures up this way ,,,wohoo

Could you please elaborate on how you do this? I have been trying to work out the Message Editor Interface settings.

Thanks,
Hanno

Libor Zachoval 13-05-12 23:01

Hi guys
thank you very much for your kind help!
Cliff, PM sent. I believe all these small errors will be corrected in my new kit :thup2:
Howard, any pictures will help, expecially Cab 12. I have almost finished Cab11, only the doghouse needs proper shape. The rest is about right I believe, though there are some little things which required compromises, not everything can be done perfectly in scale,molding technology has some limits, and wall thickness of the sheet metal in scale is always a big pain and headache to deal with. Cab 12 will be next, and any more pictures will help sooner or later, many thanks
Anthony, thank you, these are great and will help a lot to get my Ford Cab 11right :cheers:
Once again, thank you all, and keep them coming please
Cheers
Libor

ahleeds 13-05-12 23:08

attached
 
When I got all the pics loaded with the paperclip buttton ..then I clicked on the paper clip again and a small window opened with an attachment button.then each picture you can write words beside.. If that makes any sense.
Anthony

cliff 13-05-12 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahleeds (Post 164805)
Attachment 49075 These are both fords

Attachment 49076 the cab 11 has a lot of bolts holding every together

Attachment 49077 the cab 12 has quick access with slots

Attachment 49078

Attachment 49079
Anthony.
I just figured out how to put pictures up this way ,,,wohoo

The cab 12 photos (bottom 3) are of an F8 (8cwt). Is this different to the 15cwt, 30cwt and 60cwt models?

Stew Robertson 14-05-12 01:14

Hey Cliff
I guess I am just about as clear as mud as you are
try reading the [post again, same mud!

cliff 14-05-12 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew Robertson (Post 164816)
Hey Cliff
I guess I am just about as clear as mud as you are
try reading the [post again, same mud!

Terrible thick mud just like me Stew :) Do you know if the 8cwt one is the same as the other ones? :thup2:

Lynn Eades 14-05-12 02:53

Posting
 
Off topic, but thanks Anthony for the help with posting. I just learned another way.

cletrac (RIP) 14-05-12 05:14

The 8 cwt covers are the same as the 15 cwt ones for the same make and cab style. That should be clear as mud too!!


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