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maple_leaf_eh 20-01-13 20:35

First time I've seen one of these in Canada
 
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ433532262

Swiss M38A1 near Windsor.

Hanno Spoelstra 20-01-13 21:26

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Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh (Post 174736)
Swiss M38A1 near Windsor.

Note this is a militarised CJ-5, not an M38A1.

Rear hatch, no 24V intervehicle connector, etc. etc. - there's a whole lot more differences than meets the eye.

H.

rob love 20-01-13 23:43

CJ5 or M606A2? The data plates on the dash would seem to indicate military issue. Were the Swiss vehicles provided under MAPP?

maple_leaf_eh 21-01-13 02:34

No military aid to a neutral country. Somewhere on the 'net are pages that detail the Dutch, Canadian and other M38A1 Jeeps. This one sounds legit as a Swiss purchase.

Hanno Spoelstra 21-01-13 09:31

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Originally Posted by rob love (Post 174747)
CJ5 or M606A2? The data plates on the dash would seem to indicate military issue. Were the Swiss vehicles provided under MAPP?

CJ-5! I have checked the specs of the CJ-5, M38A1 and M606A2. The Swiss ordered them direct from the factory, data plates were Swiss Army spec in German/French. Like Terry said, the M606-series Jeeps were ordered by the US Government and handed out to countries receiving military aid. Note that the number of militarised Jeeps sold post-WW2 to Armed Forces around the globe - and including the US military - is much larger than one thinks.

Here are pictures depicting some of the details of militarised Swiss CJ-5s:
Battery box in the cowl, Jeep stampings on cowl sides:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...89-resized.JPG
Rear tailgate (I did not notice it when I photographed the jeep, but it is there):
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...85-resized.JPG
View on the dash: hand brake under the dash to the left of the steering wheel; note small fuel filler:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...75-resized.JPG
Chassis serial and engine numbers, year of manufacture:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...91-resized.JPG

These are some details where they differe from the M606A2:
Difficult to see, but front springs have only five leaves - also note shovel under body next to chassis:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...86-resized.JPG
Rear springs have twelve leaves:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...88-resized.JPG
Compare with M606A2 specs:
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...mbs/m606a2.jpg

H.

rob love 21-01-13 13:33

Thanks for the photos and information Hanno.

We had very limited amounts of the CJ5 in Cdn service, although CJ6 and commandos were to be found (especially in the trades school in Borden) along with some decent size purchases of CJ7 in the 80s. Come to think of it, the YJ series also started showing up in Borden.


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