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Tim Lovelock 18-04-14 05:13

Airport Fire Appliances
 
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Img96b. Location unknown, Apparently the 'street sweeper' on the end was much maligned, it's lack of, 'off road' capability very much a drawback on an airfield.
Img98b. I believe is Essendon circa1950's
Img10b. Location unknown.
Img11b. Moorabbin Airport.

Richard Farrant 18-04-14 10:34

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Originally Posted by Tim Lovelock (Post 194348)
Img96b. Location unknown, Apparently the 'street sweeper' on the end was much maligned, it's lack of, 'off road' capability very much a drawback on an airfield

This vehicle on the end looks like a standard model of the Shelvoke & Drewry Gully Emptier. They have a swinging boom on top with a suction hose to clear blocked drains in to the tanker body. A common municipal vehicle, obviously the wrong vehicle for airfield use due to the small diameter wheels.

lynx42 20-04-14 01:09

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Originally Posted by Tim Lovelock (Post 194348)
Img96b. Location unknown, Apparently the 'street sweeper' on the end was much maligned, it's lack of, 'off road' capability very much a drawback on an airfield.

Looks like a Shelvoke and Drewy sweeper.

Attachment 64955

They always had small wheels.
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Regards Rick

Richard Farrant 20-04-14 01:14

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Originally Posted by lynx42 (Post 194403)
Looks like a Shelvoke and Drewy sweeper.



They always had small wheels. Regards Rick

hi Rick,
Neither of those you have shown are Sweepers. The top one is a Gulley Emptier body as the RAAF one in the old photo in discussion. The lower one is a Refuse body, or Dustcart as they are commonly known in the UK and is the early tiller steered model, which had exceptionally small wheels.

ted angus 20-04-14 12:18

Truck firefighting Domestic
 
Gents there is a picture and a bit of info in " FIRE & CRASH VEHICLES By Bart Vanderveen published by OYSLAGER IN 1976.

The S & D is a W model RAAF truck firefighting domestic; supplied 1952 carried 1100 gal water. The pipe on the top looks too be a vent overflow pipe.
TED

Richard Farrant 20-04-14 12:25

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Originally Posted by ted angus (Post 194419)
Gents there is a picture and a bit of info in " FIRE & CRASH VEHICLES By Bart Vanderveen published by OYSLAGER IN 1976.

The S & D is a W model RAAF truck firefighting domestic; supplied 1952 carried 1100 gal water. The pipe on the top looks too be a vent overflow pipe.
TED

Thanks Ted !
The slopping box alongside the tank looked just like a gulley emptier where they stowed the hoses. Your info seems more logical. Definitely not a sweeper anyhow. :)

Just found this info on a restored RAAF example at Point Cook museum:

217159

SD W type Crash Tender Year of Manufacture: 1950/51

Original Owner: Royal Australian Air Force. Owner: R.A.A.F. Point Cook Museum. Location: Melbourne, Victoria,Australia.

The Australian Civil Aviation Department ordered ten SD 'W' types equipped as airfield crash tenders for delivery in 1950/51. It is not known whether this one is one of that batch or a separate order for the Air Force. Fitted with 1,100 gallon water tanks and a front sprinkler to clear spilt fuel and when fire fighting to keep flames clear of the vehicle. In 2010 the vehicle was restored at the museum and painted bright yellow

lynx42 20-04-14 12:39

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Originally Posted by Richard Farrant (Post 194405)
hi Rick,
Neither of those you have shown are Sweepers. The top one is a Gulley Emptier body as the RAAF one in the old photo in discussion. The lower one is a Refuse body, or Dustcart as they are commonly known in the UK and is the early tiller steered model, which had exceptionally small wheels.

Yes, I know that Richard, I was just id.ing the make. Got that right.

Regards Rick.

Richard Farrant 21-04-14 14:24

The first photo which we have been discussing is Guildford aerodrome in WA. I thought this was all to familiar, we have had this photo on the forum before,
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=18179

Also found this web page, showing one of these S&D trucks that were in RAAF service. I think the term "sweeper" was a nickname for them as it looks as though it is a fire engine of sorts, carrying a ladder, but bodywork is very similar to a cesspool tanker and gully emptier, with the tank and side stowage for hoses. Never seen a sweeper version of this truck though, doubt the engine would have had enough power to suck the dirt up.
http://www.georama.com.au/RAAFFireSe...26_Drewry.html

Wayne Henderson 22-04-14 10:01

jeeps
 
The last 2 vehicles, both Jeeps, are from another era.
The back end of a HR (?) station wagon is shown in the background and these where new in the mid 60's.

Tim Lovelock 23-04-14 07:29

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Originally Posted by Richard Farrant (Post 194455)
The first photo which we have been discussing is Guildford aerodrome in WA. I thought this was all to familiar, we have had this photo on the forum before,
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=18179

Also found this web page, showing one of these S&D trucks that were in RAAF service. I think the term "sweeper" was a nickname for them as it looks as though it is a fire engine of sorts, carrying a ladder, but bodywork is very similar to a cesspool tanker and gully emptier, with the tank and side stowage for hoses. Never seen a sweeper version of this truck though, doubt the engine would have had enough power to suck the dirt up.
http://www.georama.com.au/RAAFFireSe...26_Drewry.html

Ha ha Richard, by the size of the tank on the S&D it's any wonder the caption on your link asks why they ever bothered to try to change up a gear!! My experience in a Bedford (RL) some years later used to be the same, poor old girl would have struggled to pull the skin off a rice pudding. I worked with an officer who had some years on me in the ARFFS, vague though my memory is, I'm sure he wasn't fond of the S&D... But I'm glad for a bit more history on them to update the captions on these pics that I was fortunate to have printed by the DCA photographic section when organisations funded such things!! Cheers Tim


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