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John A. Rippingham 06-07-14 22:13

Help identifying carrier parts?
 
Hello,

i'm hoping some of you guys might be able to help me identify these parts, I'm pretty sure this first one is carrier, but where does it go? It has the part number C01UC105433 listed in the parts book as a ammo box but not shown on the drawing.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps0a8b2b91.jpg

Not sure about this but it came with the carrier parts?

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psc7266cb5.jpg

These looked like they could have been carrier, but on closer inspection the part number 440002805 told me they were not for mine.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps9e2cb551.jpg

Thanks in advance for any help

John

eddy8men 06-07-14 22:36

hi john
sorry but I don't recognise any of those bits

RichardT10829 06-07-14 22:46

The bin looks like the radio spare parts bin that sits next to the ammo bin by the radio operator... It would be the first bin nearest to the centre bulkhead on the drivers side. I cannot gauge it's size by the pic, if it is that bin, I would be interested in one of them should you sell.

John A. Rippingham 06-07-14 23:14

Boxes.
 
The boxes are about 8" square and about 10" high. I was thinking it's the box next to the passenger seat, but it's not labeled up on the drawing.

Thanks for your help.

Lynn Eades 07-07-14 00:30

Hi John Richard has it right, about the bin. The other bits are not carrier though, unless they are from a later model.

Michael R. 07-07-14 02:33

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Are they the larger ammunition bins, TL 13065? Your estimate of 8x10 inch suggests they are. John, what is the part number punched into the side? The retaining clips are missing from the engine facing side. The clips held the spares wallet for the BREN. See Jordan B., who recently installed one. There should be a packing board between the bin and the mudguard. That will explain the rather longish 1/4 inch flat head countersunk retaining screws. The images from Steve Tegner in J'burg, RSA show the spacer in place on the museum MK-I*.

If it is the (much) smaller bin, as Richie and Lynn say to hold the radio spare tubes box, it should also have the clips on the front to hold the radio spares fuze box. A search of the assembly number in the parts manual will reveal the bin number. I will post an image or two. Bruce P likely has images of both with the spares cases in place.

Michael R. 07-07-14 04:03

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See: ( 24 Oct 2021, link invalid)

Mr. Steve Tegner of the Ditsong Museum in Johannesburg, Republic of South Africa posted a link with over two hundred and sixty excellent images of an April, 1943 MK-I* built for British Contract SM-1046.

John A. Rippingham 07-07-14 20:23

Hello,

Thanks for all your help. Micheal i think you have the correct one with the ammo box behind the driver there is the remains of the clips on the box. The exact measurements of the box is 8 1/2" x 10 1/2" x 11".

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psa9712930.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps82e19bf9.jpg

Would someone be good enough to do me a drawing of the clips that should be on the box?

Thanks

John

Marc van Aalderen 07-07-14 20:29

Ross,

Nice photos for sure. Had a chuckle over the winter track fitted in South Africa of all places. :yappy:

Cheers,

John A. Rippingham 07-07-14 21:20

Whilst I'm on a roll.............
 
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Ok here's a couple more. See if i can get lucky with these. The first ones i was told are petrol tank caps, i've not looked closely for part numbers yet, but looking in the parts book i can't see anything similar.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...psac88a52b.jpg

I bought this thinking it might be the box you sometimes see on the front of a carrier?

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...ps06de4954.jpg

I'm pretty sure these are not off a carrier, can anyone recognise them?

Attachment 66314



Thanks

John

Hanno Spoelstra 07-07-14 22:40

Hello John,

Excellent thread, but could you please attach the pictures to your posting instead of using a link to an externally hosted picture?
I'm asking as history tells us that those externally linked pictures disappear one day, and then a useful thread like this becomes useless.

Thanks in advance!
Hanno
MLU Administrator

John A. Rippingham 07-07-14 23:19

No problem
 
Hello Hanno,

Sorry i have only just found the attachment tab :doh:, will save me time uploading them to photobucket, will upload them in future :)

Thanks

Lynn Eades 08-07-14 11:08

The big bog is an anmmo box for O(two?) 3.7" shells. Many Loyds had them on the front. they are fairly common. The others are new to me.

Hanno Spoelstra 09-07-14 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by John A. Rippingham (Post 197507)
Sorry i have only just found the attachment tab :doh:, will save me time uploading them to photobucket, will upload them in future :)

Hello John,

No problem, just give it a try, I can always rectify. If you need help give me a holler :thup2:

H.

Rob Beale 09-07-14 10:09

The boxes loo.k like LP boxes
 
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In the attached pic the two tall boxes are about 8" square and 10" high.
They hold Iron rations and Cooking Utensils in an LP carrier.


If you look at the bits in a Tamiya 1/35 Mk II carrier model, there are a a set of them in the back left corner of the hull in the instructions.
(The Verlinden 1/15 model doesn't have them).

Just for those who don't know LP carriers:
The squat box holds the cooker which is a Coleman type in a cylindrical tin.
The open frame in front holds a wooden ammo box for 1248 rounds of boxed 0.303 and the clips at the back hold 4 Vickers ammo boxes on end. (not bags as Nigel calls them)

The big ammo box is 1200 long and carried two rounds of 3.7" AA as Lynn says. They are virtually the same size as the carrier kit box, and I have seen pics of them used across the front of Kiwi carriers in Italy.

Post war many Kiwi LP2A were converted to Support weapons roles, and the five big bins at the back were replaced by a 3.7" AA box on the shelf.

Rob
ps two more sleeps and off to the UK!!!


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