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FORD Geelong WW2 production

Hi all

Some research done by a U.S. historian friend has unearthed these figures . The figures apparently come via a chap working here at Ford Australia . These are previously unknown to me and I cannot verify if they are correct . So take it as you will.

I am interested in your collective comments on this data . Does it add up ? Sound as if it makes sense ?

Mike

I have attached the file as a .txt file because I cannot seem to paste it into this thread .

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Originally Posted by Mike Kelly (Post 94573)

I have attached the file as a .txt file because I cannot seem to paste it into this thread .

Hi MIke, here you go. It needs some formatting, which I will do later.

H.

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FORD PRODUCTION FIGURES

1940

MODEL CIVILIAN DEFENCE FORCES
CANADIAN-SOURCED
Roadster Deluxe 20 nil
Convertible coupe 70 nil
Coupe 123 nil
Coupe Deluxe 217 nil
Sedan 243 16
Sedan Deluxe 1656 220
Passenger Chassis 3 nil
Commercial chassis 90 438
Utility 899 339
Panel Van 107 nil
Mercury Sedan 852 1
Mercury Chassis 3 nil
122" Wheelbase Truck 212 1314
131-134" Wheelbase Truck 260 320
157-176" Wheelbase Truck 990 1459
185-194" Wheelbase Truck 97 9
UNITED KINGDOM-SOURCED
Roadster 33 nil
Tourer 286 nil
Coupe 78 nil
Sedan 1530 nil
Utility 492 1
Panel Van 102 nil
Commercial Chassis 8 nil

FORD PRODUCTION FIGURES

1941

MODEL CIVILIAN DEFENCE FORCES
CANADIAN-SOURCED
Roadster Deluxe 11 nil
Convertible Coupe 17 nil
Coupe 187 nil
Coupe Deluxe 206 nil
Sedan 160 60
Sedan Deluxe 953 269
Utility Chassis 19 nil
Utility 817 534
Panel Van 98 nil
Mercury Sedan 231 nil
B.P.C Chassis nil 1313
B.P.C. War Department Chassis nil 976
122" Wheelbase Truck 121 1555
134-135" Wheelbase Truck 176 1193
158-176" Wheelbase Truck 774 2066
194" Wheelbase Truck 161 1
Cab Over Engine Truck 13 nil
UNITED KINGDOM-SOURCED
Roadster 7 nil
Tourer 50 nil
Coupe 34 nil
Sedan 867 7
Utility 269 1
Panel Van 101 1

FORD PRODUCTION FIGURES

1942

MODEL CIVILIAN DEFENCE FORCES
CANADIAN-SOURCED
Roadster Deluxe 6 nil
Convertible Coupe nil nil
Coupe 48 nil
Coupe Deluxe 62 1
Sedan 1 nil
Sedan Deluxe 24 73
Utility Chassis 27 23
Utility 114 1141
Panel Van 3 80
Mercury Sedan 11 185
B.P.C Chassis nil 7279
USA Lend Lease Vehicles nil 614
Special Army Units (unknown) nil 5
122" Wheelbase Truck 9 134
134-135" Wheelbase Truck 61 432
158-176" Wheelbase Truck 190 1182
194" Wheelbase Truck 106 34
Cab Over Engine Truck 27 3
Cab Over Chassis nil 111
Lincoln Zephyr Sedan 1 nil

UNITED KINGDOM-SOURCED
Roadster 1 1
Tourer 50 nil
Coupe 11 nil
Sedan 31 145
Utility 53 22
Panel Van 20 nil
Commercial Chassis 1 8

Ford Geelong WW2 Production

Please read the query sent in by Michele Cook of the Ford Motor Company of Australia. Reply to this thread, I will forward the link to her.

Thanks in advance,
Hanno

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We are transcribing and digitising all Ford Production records from 1925 to the current day. Have a particular problem in defining the vehicles mentioned in Mike’s email produced in 1941 and 1942, “B.P.C. Chassis” and “B.P.C. Convertible Chassis”. Do you have any information as what these vehicles were?

Regards,
Michele Cook
Ford Historian
Ford Motor Company of Australia

Could be related to one ton utilities.

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Originally Posted by jack neville (Post 198005)

Could be related to one ton utilities.

the numbers may be too high for 1 Ton utes ? the roadster 1 ton vehicles may be included in the 122" wb truck listed ?

this is the thread i think .

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...hlight=geelong

Sorry. Had never seen the listed referred to. Can't help.

BCP could be the USA's "Building Partner Capacity" policy which supplied information and equipment to 'Partner' Governments and has done so from 1940 till today.

These Chassis would, or could have been training chassis to train Military & Civilian Mechanics how to assemble and repair different vehicles. The War Department Chassis may have been of Ford Produced Armoured Cars and other specialist chassis. The convertible chassis could be training aids showing how to convert an existing chassis into another type, for example, a standard Ford Chassis into a Marmon-Herrington 4 or 6 wheel drive.

Just my 2 cents worth. :)

the lend lease vehicles listed in 1942 production may be jail bar fords ?

Nomenclature mystery

None of the units identified as B.P.C. went to civilian use, only to the defence forces. Over 7,000 in 1942.
This sort of production figure must surely relate to Blitz. Particularly as the vehicle/chassis referred to were sourced from Canada. What else could they be?
Perhaps B.P.C. = British Pattern Canadian nomenclature was used 'in house' instead of CMP?
Makes sense to me but only a wild guess.

David

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Originally Posted by Mike Kelly (Post 198008)

this is the thread i think .
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...hlight=geelong

Threads now merged.

H.

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Originally Posted by motto (Post 198044)

Dave I think you are correct as no reference is given to the CMP type chassis in the lists. The convertible type may be vehicle kits with only part of the cab, the rest being built locally. Unlike Holden, Ford Australia did not have the capacity to build complete steel cabs or bodies at that time so needed to use windscreen/firewall units which had to be imported. :cheers: