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Radek 21-12-14 21:13

UC MK.II* Canadian armor thread
 
Could somebody tell me which kind of thread are on the Canadian UC Mk.II*? UNC, UNF, BSW, BSF?
Now I would like know the thread on the front armor.
Thanks

RichardT10829 21-12-14 21:29

Thread on the armour ? What is threaded ?

rob love 21-12-14 21:48

On both the mk1 and mk2 Canadian, the hull and accessories are all BSF. The engine and transmission (and likely the rear axle housing) are north american threads (UNC or UNF). The 4 bolts holding the upper angle over the radiator/division plate could be either BSF or UNF.

The only threads on the front armour that I can think of are the window mechanisms and perhaps the cover over the gunners port. They will all be BSF.

Radek 21-12-14 21:52

UC thread
 
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maybe wrong question.
Are on gunners plate the dimensions in red circle threads? If yes, which one?

RichardT10829 21-12-14 21:59

The bottom marked item.... Is that not a raised peg to stop the folding armour travelling too far ?

Radek 21-12-14 22:39

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I have started with thiw piace

rob love 21-12-14 23:06

According to the parts manual, everything in that area is BSF.

Lynn Eades 22-12-14 05:14

I agree that they are BSF. The stop peg still has a BSF thread

Radek 22-12-14 08:36

Many thanks for info. Now I have finished the scretch for this gunner plate. The athers will be continue.

RichardT10829 22-12-14 10:55

Something not right.
 
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Sorry to be Picky here...and don't wish to be confrontational.......your asking for measurements and details off people here at MLU but you appear to have deliberately masked out your measurements on the drawing so others cannot benefit..... Seems a bit off.

Radek 22-12-14 12:30

Here are everybody helpfull with all, exchanging experiences, spare parts etc., but no with measures of the front armor. :-(

I am so sorry for the masked measures. But everytime when I asked for any measures, nobody help me. :-( Everybody would like payment for this. :-(

I know it takes any time for making drawings and take measures, I know it wery well. :-D

Only one friend help me with, for me missing, measures. :note:
I can show all my work, but why with this experience. :-(

I would like say thank you to everybody who is so kind and can help. :thup2:

rob love 22-12-14 23:36

Happy to have been of some help. Invoice to follow.

eddy8men 23-12-14 01:18

radek that is not how things are done, you are not a dealer, most of us are not dealers, why would you not try to help out and contribute to the other guys on the forum. that's what it's all about or am I singing off the wrong song sheet !

regards

rick

Radek 23-12-14 08:02

UC MkII* front armor
 
o.k. guys not problem for me show to others resolution of my work ;-)

Iīm curious if somebody help me with the rest plates. Now I will start working scretch for the left gunners plate.

Radek 23-12-14 08:30

UC MkII* gunners plate
 
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:sheep: :cool: 1:4

eddy8men 23-12-14 11:10

thanks, we are all in together until the bitter end :D

rick

RichardT10829 23-12-14 11:32

right that's better...feel like I am steeling Hanno's Thunder here (he is forum plod)

I can measure my plates but they are mk1 and repro.

I am trying to boot up an old PC to get the bulkhead and side armour drawings for a few people... Do you have side armour ?

Radek 23-12-14 11:32

:drunk: :cheers:

Radek 23-12-14 11:56

UC MkII* side armor
 
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Richard,

Yes I have cca 97% lenght of side armors and rest measured on another UC.

Hanno Spoelstra 23-12-14 12:34

Re: Something not right.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardT10829 (Post 203910)
right that's better...feel like I am steeling Hanno's Thunder here (he is forum plod)

In Holland the police is one's best friend, or so they say :D

Let's keep this in the right prespective guys, it's a matter of giving and taking having to be in balance. So Eddy & Richie, take out those measuring tapes and help Radek with his much needed measurements :thup2:

PS: while you are at it, Siemon is in need of some measurements as well

Thanks,
Hanno

RichardT10829 23-12-14 13:15

Like I say mine is repro, and I had no reference when unmade the section but here goes

I have to upload them off site as I am using apple products

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps519auph2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pstcmz8yhe.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psmz46mhq7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pstxgu0fbh.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psa6febjdc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psck9gyrdl.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psxzzjfs7c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psm3udc4ii.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psp0nlrtzq.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psluniggfn.jpg



Like I say could be wrong but I made it work.

I still need to put the fillet in on the upright angle bar as you can see it's missing

Radek 23-12-14 13:32

Canadian MkII*
 
Richard,

thanks. That will be helpfull, but I donīt know if is this part the same by MkI and MkII.
Could somebody confirm, that the whole on the Richards pictures is only round without thread?

Thanks

Jordan Baker 23-12-14 18:50

The hole in the front plate should be threaded. The screw has a shoulder on it and this is what the swinging plate pivots off of. The head of the screw is not flush with the front of the swinging plate.

RichardT10829 23-12-14 19:28

Is the positioning etc the same between mk1 and mk2 ? Perhaps Jordan could offer his up for measurements ? As stated above mine could be wrong.... That said the swing plate was a direct copy of an original mk1.

I will rebuild the thing tonight..... Busy putting elbows back on conduits that I took off to assist other MLU'ers too ! Busy night ahead for me 😜

Radek 23-12-14 22:15

differences
 
One more observation!

When I have took dimensions from bouth UC (the serial numbers are clouse to each other), they arenīt exact same.

eddy8men 24-12-14 13:04

sorry but mine is repro as well, infact the guy that made the swinging plate did an exact copy from his T16, unfortunately they are not the sme size :doh:

Radek 24-12-14 16:05

UC vs. UC
 
I am not an expert and no longer in UC problems.

I have recieved informations, we are speaking about nord American carriers, that the Canadian MkI*, Canadian MkII* and US T16 hasnīt the same pattern and dimesions of front armor.
The same pattern and same dimensions have ony MkII* and Winsdor.

Lynn Eades 24-12-14 19:42

Radek, Firstly "Merry Christmas"
I believe that dimensionally the gunners left plate and right plate are the same in the MkI* and MKII* There are variations with the things that are mounted on those plates (extinguishers etc), but essentially the same across those models.

Radek 01-01-15 12:17

Gunners left plate
 
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Happy New Year
Here is the half of gunners left plate. Who will give me the rest dimensions?

Radek 01-01-15 12:38

Gunners left plate
 
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Not finished and half missing


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