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Patrick Johnson 03-11-24 19:39

Sherman tank: pistol port locking mechanism - photos wanted
 
Hi,
I am hoping someone has good photos of how the pistol port handle rotates into a female retainer welded just above the pistol port opening, when the handle is in its locked position. Given it's such a small part, the photos I have just don't give enough detail to its construction. Sketches would be fine in the absence of a decent photo.
Many thanks for your help,
Patrick

Jakko Westerbeke 04-11-24 11:21

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Do you mean locked like this?

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Patrick Johnson 04-11-24 15:57

Pistol port locking mechanism
 
Yes, that's it. I have that diagram but what I need is a close up of that locking mechanism on a real tank. It appears to be a solid block of steel that the handle engages, but I would very much like to find photographic proof of this. I need someone with access to a Sherman to give me a close up photo of this, free of any obstructing handle.
Thx for posting,
Patrick

Jakko Westerbeke 05-11-24 10:59

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Bloody “restorers” …

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This is the inside of the turret of the Sherman (ex-Crab) at Westkapelle, Netherlands, while it was being restored a few years ago. The people doing the work basically cut everything off the inside of the turret wall because it would get in the way of painting it (which I was not happy with when I discovered it) but I hoped they had left the latch that I think you’re after. Looking through my photos, though, you can see they did cut it off. They left the socket, though.

Hanno Spoelstra 05-11-24 14:35

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Originally Posted by Jakko Westerbeke (Post 297444)
Bloody “restorers” …

This is the inside of the turret of the Sherman (ex-Crab) at Westkapelle, Netherlands, while it was being restored a few years ago. The people doing the work basically cut everything off the inside of the turret wall because it would get in the way of painting it (which I was not happy with when I discovered it) but I hoped they had left the latch that I think you’re after. Looking through my photos, though, you can see they did cut it off. They left the socket, though.

Ah, I see someone did some harvesting of parts :nono:

Surprised they did not paint/ coat the interior, given the conditions it has to survive in...

Tim Bell 05-11-24 17:33

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Patrick

Hopefully these are of some use.

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Regards

Tim

Jakko Westerbeke 06-11-24 11:02

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 297447)
Surprised they did not paint/ coat the interior, given the conditions it has to survive in...

They did paint the interior, for exactly that reason. That’s why they cut all the parts off: to make sure they could get paint everywhere on the actual turret wall. I still consider it unnecessary destruction of things that survived for eighty years, though.

Hanno Spoelstra 06-11-24 11:30

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Originally Posted by Jakko Westerbeke (Post 297465)
They did paint the interior, for exactly that reason. That’s why they cut all the parts off: to make sure they could get paint everywhere on the actual turret wall. I still consider it unnecessary destruction of things that survived for eighty years, though.

Good to hear they painted the interior and indeed sad they destructed it to do so :(

Patrick Johnson 07-11-24 03:30

Pistol Port
 
Thanks to all for answering my inquiry, and to Tim for finding the clearest photos of this handle and locking mechanism I've ever seen. Thank you! I can only hope that this is the interior of your 17pdr, which would tell me it's in great shape.
Cheers, Patrick

Jakko Westerbeke 07-11-24 11:11

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra (Post 297469)
sad they destructed it to do so :(

Here’s the other side of the turret as it was back then:

Attachment 139017

And five months later:

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(I took this photo to show the thinner sections of armour on the right front, but it shows the paint well, too.)


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