quiz time!
 

Let's start a CMP quiz. Here are two questions I would like to enter:

1) Why were the windows of the nr. 13 cab slanted inwards?

2) Why is the wheelbase of Ford CMP trucks 1/4" longer than the equivalent Chevrolet trucks?

Who knows the answer to any of the above questions? (Please provide evidence.)

Who has another question to add?

Please proceed!

Hanno

Re: quiz time!
 

So as not to produce a reflective beacon for enemy aircraft.
Because Ford forgot to calibrate their ruler before they started.
Why are Ford gearboxes SO truculent and never the same change twice?

R.

Re: Re: quiz time!
 

Sorry, wrong answer.
Yes, good question!

H.

I have also read somewhere that in addition to not reflecting the sunlight the windscreens also did not collect snow and grit as much.

Ford always wanted to be bigger than Chevrolet.

Question: Some, perhaps all, Fords had the Ford emblem on the truck. Not so, it seems, Chevrolet. If I am correct, why??
Bill

Because Chevrolet did not have to advertise the superior qualities of their vehicles as often as Ford did! :D

And

Henry Ford always needed his name to be promenantly displayed where ever possible due to his big ego. :rolleyes

Cheers
Cliff :)

Sorry, not correct. Fords first had badges on the grille, which were later discarded and replaced by Ford and Ford Canada stampings below the headlights. Chevrolets most certainly were fitted with bowties.

H.

Spoilsport!!

I can only suppose that the Chevrolet Bowtie was so coveted that they were quickly stolen.

Sorry, Hanno, maybe I am better off sticking to US origin vehicles where my knowledge factor is like 88% compared to maybe 20% when it comes to CMPs.

Mazeltof
Bill

Well, a day nothing learned is a day wasted, isn't it? That's why I started this quiz ;)

H.

Yes, my dear Hanno:

As I advance in age, I try to waste less and less time every day and try to learn as much as I can.

But, it does royally piss off my wife, who is now retired from our business and seems to think I should immediately sit down with her for an hour or two after coming home and tell her about all the stuff she no longer sees on a day to day basis.

Life is truly a "Soap Opera" as we say in my country.
Bill

Know-it-all
 

From Chevrolet chassis # 2844513801 OCTOBER 1942 # 13 cab windscreens opened 90 degrees rather than the original 30, I gather to improve ventilation?

And I loved the Ford ruler bit!

By the way, Ford of Canada was only partly-owned by Ford of USA, and definitely did not do what Henry I, Edsel and Henry II (sounds like Shakespeare plays) dicated. All overseas subsidiaries apart from Ford Motor Co Ltd, UK and Ford-Werke, Koln, were subsidiaries of Ford of Canada although Ford of Romania was probably a British Ford subsidiary!

May I ask a question please? What was the most number of cylinders ever proposed in a CMP engine? It is posible that this was actually achieved.

Winner gets a free VINTAGE ROADSCENE magazine with military article by Yours Truly in it, air mailed anywhere in the world, gratis. In case of a tie, Hanno declares the winner.

Re: Know-it-all
 

12 - there was a proposal to fit the Lincoln sidevalve V12 to (I think) the F60H.

As to the windscreens, it was an Aussie innovation to make them open to 90 degrees.

Windows
 

To quote from Bart's Observer's fighting vehicles P. 212:

" The new cab had reverse-slope windscreens to reduce glare and also to prevent the piling up of snow, slush, etc."

Another reason was for blackout convoy driving so the driver could see the pinspot tail lamps of the vehicle ahead without reflections.

And a spurious one: You can get onto the roof in three bounds: Bumper, front shell and then roof if you're athletic and tackle it at a run!

Here's another question:

Why do the Australian Chevrolets have rectangular cowl vents?

Cowl vents
 

Not noticed it before but Holden, Woodville built the cabs so was it something to do with the fabrication process? Rectangular would also allow in more air (and dust).

Wot's the address?
 

The advantage that the 290 cu. in. U.S. V-12 had was that it was produced in right-hand drive form. So Ford offered a F60X!

However:
The C60X was born, with the pilot the only #12 Cabbed example.

Address please!!!

Windshield Opening Revision
 

David,

GM Service Bulletin (B-18, Oct 20, 1942) that describes the windshield opening revision said

"This facilitates the use of Fire Arms through the windshield opening and became effective......"



Brian

Re: Windows
 

Close enough ... this is the answer I was looking for:
"The windshield slants forward placing the surface of the glass square with the driver's line of vision to the road and reduces the possibility of reflected light interfering with the driver's vision. It is exceptionally effective during blackout operations. "
Source: Ford instruction book Special Pattern Vehicles (third edition) p. 208.

H.

Answer
 

YES!!! :cheers:

A new question to revive this thread:

What CMP parts/parts was/were bolted to this jeep?

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...um/p011036.jpg

Parts
 

Well there's the mirror... but that's not unique to CMPs...

Re: Parts
 

Yes, the mirror. Maybe you can tell where the mirror "that's not unique to CMPs" was made, eh?

And what is the second part?

Just a guess, but the seat looks a bit comfy for a Jeep.
Oh, and the little teeny mudflaps.
Bill

Re: quiz time!
 

I haven't read all the posts to this thread, as there are currently 20, so if the correct answer has already been given, my apologies. The correct answer, of course, was to reduce glare and therefore driver fatigue. At the reverse angle, the windscreen is perpendicular to the most common line of sight of any driver and is therefore the least likely to produce glare.


:cheers: CHIMO! :cheers:

Re: Cowl vents
 

Because GMH already had the tooling to make the rectangular vent . They had been using it since 1939 on their civilian Chev . cabs . Why spend lots of money making new press tools for the oblong shaped vent , when there already existed a useable rectangular press tool .

Mike

What parts are bolted to the jeep
 

Bit of a guess this, but when I rebuilt my 44 Ford jeep a few years ago, all of the brake drums had the Chevrolet bowtie cast into them
Keith

Parts
 

Those wipers look a bit odd,

I think the good Generals arm conceals CMP wiper motors

Pete
:sheep:

Re: quiz time!
 

Answers to your questions Hanno.

1) Windows are slanted outwards (trick question!) but if its a language thing its because under severe braking the driver had more time to protect his face! (Evidence: eyebrow hair on the No.12 window glass and handprint on the No.13)

2) Because the Master demanded the Ford had to be bigger and better! (Evidence: They are!)

Nigel

another question
 

I have often wondered what the purpose was for fitting the bumper bar jewels. some of the early photos of cmp's 11 type appear not to have jewels fitted and here in Australia the later production type 13 cab had smaller holes in the bumper bar without a jewel.

Does all this make sense

Max

Re: quiz time!
 

Well Hanno, I am busting to know.... Just why IS the Ford 1/4" longer?

HH

Yeah!
 

I have never found out an official answer. I did wonder years ago on reviewing evidnce from 1940 about the very first DND-pattern trucks delived from Oshawa that holes had been drilled in the side frames 1 inch out...I wondered if it was a chassis rail jig error by Fords? I should love to know whet the real answer is!

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Congrats Derek, you get the Afterburner Cup for this answer :D