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John McGillivray 04-09-07 00:39

17 Pounder Anti-Tank Gun
 
Here are photos of a 17pdr A/T gun located at the Brome County Museum in Knowlton Quebec in the Eastern Townships.

Breech Ring No L20189
WB & Co FL 5593

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2569.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2566.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2565.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2557.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2556.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2588.jpg

John McGillivray 04-09-07 00:55

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2560.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2561.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2591.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2590.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2589.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2550.jpg

John McGillivray 04-09-07 01:09

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2558.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2555.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2554.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2559.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2563.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2564.jpg

John McGillivray 04-09-07 01:32

The final set of photos showing the sight mounts. Note that there are mounts for both a telescopic sight for direct fire and a panoramic sight for indirect fire.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2553.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2587.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2585.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2551.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2552.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2586.jpg

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 04-09-07 01:41

That's a really pretty piece of kit!

John McGillivray 04-09-07 01:50

Here are close-ups from two of the photos above showing the range rings. Note that there are three rings for three types of ammunition.

APCBC FULL
2900 F.S.

AP SV/DS
3950 F.S.

HE/Mk 2 T
FUZE No 244 1800 F.S.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/range002.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/range001.jpg

Lynn Eades 04-09-07 06:59

Nice John. Any idea what the "l L l" stands for on the I.D. plate?

Robert Dabkowski 04-09-07 15:13

17 pdrs
 
John,

Not sure if you posted those great photos just for interest's sake or if there was a request somewhere that I didn't see ?

As I'm sure you know there are additional 17pdrs to be found at the Cdn. War Museum in Ottawa (2 there, one restored and one not), one at the Brantford Ontario Military Museum that was complete down to the optics and the canvas muzzle covers when I last saw it three years ago, one outside of the Oakville (or Burlington, I always mix up the those two) Canadian Legion Hall and finally, one outside on display in a cemetary here in Toronto (along with a 25 pdr and a 40mm Bofors).

If needed, I could provide photos over the next few months.

John McGillivray 08-09-07 16:06

There is a lot of information concerning the 17pdr gun along with its ammunition on David Boyd’s site.

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/17pounder.aspx

Stuart Kirkham 08-09-07 23:53

This pieces looks to be in pretty good nick however someone should think about splashing on a little bit of preservative to protect it from the dreaded 'Mr Rust'. :teach:

John McGillivray 22-03-09 23:29

On this tread on the British Ordnance Collectors Network site, there is a lot of info about the 17pdr ammunition.

http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/17pr-c...and-t3451.html

maple_leaf_eh 23-03-09 23:08

Brome County Museum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John McGillivray (Post 82327)
Here are photos of a 17pdr A/T gun located at the Brome County Museum in Knowlton Quebec in the Eastern Townships.

Breech Ring No L20189
WB & Co FL 5593

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...A/DSCF2569.jpg

Although I have never visited this little museum, it is on my list of places to go see. They have had some good luck with their acquisitions. Apparently, indoors they have a WWI Albatross with its original skin. And, they sort of cut the grass at the Battle of Eccles Hill monument. That commemorates the last time the US tried to invade Canada, and the locals successfully beat them back. It looked a little rustic last summer when I visited.

John McGillivray 23-03-09 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh (Post 111489)
Although I have never visited this little museum, it is on my list of places to go see. They have had some good luck with their acquisitions. Apparently, indoors they have a WWI Albatross with its original skin. And, they sort of cut the grass at the Battle of Eccles Hill monument. That commemorates the last time the US tried to invade Canada, and the locals successfully beat them back. It looked a little rustic last summer when I visited.

The airplane they have is an orginal WWI Fokker D-VII, not an Albatross, and not a reproduction.

shrapnel 16-04-09 02:30

17pdr
 
There are two 17 Pdr in Sutton (Qc) close to the legion building on the street behind the post office. There are also two more in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu on the campus of the Military College... Along with a WW1 german 77mm gun howitzer, a Sherman, a Centurion and several muzzle loaders...

Mike Timoshyk 16-04-09 04:27

st Jean 17pdrs
 
I believe the 2 17pdrs at St Jean are brit models. There is a 17 pdr here in windsor as well...it is awaiting some restoration before being placed outside the armouries. There is also one in a private collection in Southern Ontario.

cheers

Mike Timoshyk in Windsor Ontario

Mike Timoshyk 10-05-09 20:53

17 Pdr Mk 1 manual on Kijiiji
 
http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...AdIdZ100878017


No connection to seller

cheers

Mike Timoshyk

sapper740 11-05-09 16:18

One more 17 pdr in B.C.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shrapnel (Post 112446)
There are two 17 Pdr in Sutton (Qc) close to the legion building on the street behind the post office. There are also two more in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu on the campus of the Military College... Along with a WW1 german 77mm gun howitzer, a Sherman, a Centurion and several muzzle loaders...


For decades there has been a 17pdr outside the Surrey, B.C. Municipal Archives building near Highway 10 and 172nd. However, I've heard rumours that it is no longer there. Any B.C. members able to shine further light on it?

:cheers:Derek


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