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Originally Posted by Keith Webb
Yes the F60B was for Bofors. Another obscure Ford was the F60T, a 115" wheelbase tractor for trailers.
The F60H appeared with a cab 13 as well as can be seen on page 248 and 249 of Bart Vanderveen's excellent 'Observers fighting vehicles directory' as both a Breakdown version and Folding Boat Equipment.
Another oddity quoted by Bart on page 249 was a 'Truck, 3-ton APT w/winch GM/Chrysler' fitted with a Chrysler 8 cylinder engine, 5 pilot models built including FAT of which there is a picture available. The engine was quoted as a 323.5 CID sidevalve.
Australia also produced an interesting one-off experiment when we created a half track based on a C60S and carrier components. It was not a success.
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G"Day Cliff and Keith,
This CMP stuff just gets more and more bizarre. Just when I grasp a little of the Cab 11 – 12 & 13 differences I am informed that it went up to series 43. I have picked up from you two blokes and other contributors to MLU that there were variations between nationalities that assembled CMPs. So you could have a generic Cab 13 pattern yet there would be differences between the Canadian versions, and the Australian and the New Zealand version; plus some were assembled in Russia. Also that Ford chassis are longer than Chevrolet chassis. This bit puts the mockers on some article I read which said chassis were fully interchangeable between Chevy and Ford. Also now Cliff adds in the information Dodge had a little foray into CMP land. I do recall that there were prototype models before the series 11 cab so I have not forgotten about that bit on CMPs on MLU.
So to clarify, or confuse the issue further – what series CMP cabs were used the most by ANZAC forces in WWII and you could expect to find sitting in a paddock in Australia today? Cab 11 + Cab 12 + Cab 13 what comes next?
As a further challenge what percentages would you expect to find of these different series cabs in Australia; as in, which would be the rarer ones to find in an Australian paddock today? Forgetting of course the continued clandestine boarder raids that are going on!
Cab 11 = %
Cab 12 = %
Cab 13 = %
Up to Cab whatever series used by Anzacs and found in Australian paddocks
My final thought is none of us are getting any younger and there is such a store of information that blokes like Cliff and Keith and many more very knowledgeable contributors to MLU are carrying around in their heads. It also seems like the Dr Grigg (or spelling like that) was one of the rare types who wrote a book on CMPs. It would be great if there was a definiative ANZAC CMP and to a lessor extent MCP book written here in Australia. Also the youngest CMP which saw in the final days of the war would be 64 years so paddock stock is reaching its use by date very rapidly. Such a book would also be invaluable to people like me who stumbled into Military vechiles by sheer accident.
If I could help any one out whose interested in getting such a book together please let me know. After the end of the year as I want to get my PhD out of the road first.
It still all boils down to one thing... That Mike Kelly bloke has a lot to answer for! It all started with just a simple statement in an email that he sent me - "have a look at your truck and see if there are any army markings on your truck". Oh the loss of innocence by such a simple action. It also meant that I was unleashed on the MLU forum to annoy everyone.
Kind Regards
Lionel