I don't mean to hijack Hanno's thread but I must tell you about the Fiat Punto I rented in Italy for my son's wedding. It had so little power that I had to go into these switchback turns at almost full power. The little beast went around the corners okay but if you lost any speed you couldn't get to the next turn without shifting into low and crawling. We had to make the trip every day and my son in law who wisely rented a Mercedes van had to wait for me all the time. He had a full load with 6 people and I just couldn't keep up with only Janet and I. I don't think much of Fiats.

Barry