That second one Kevin I tried and tried and tried to get the owner to let it go but alas my efforts were fruitless it is symptomatic of the "Hoarder Cult" i have it.... wont do anything with it...and you cant have it......
i hate these threads matey because i genuinely get irritated that historic machines like these can be allowed to decay in such a way
thats life it is all but an tool used and abused then cast aside when finished in years to come i bet there will be a forum for collectors of CVRT's used in various arenas and there will no doubt be a thread on scimitars found in play parks etc etc
hahaha
Richie