[warren brown]

That's right Mike - Bob was captain (I think) of his local bushfire brigade.
Warwick Lord when he had his property up at Lue near Mudgee had a kind of tourist military-vehicle-experience operation where you could ride tanks and other MVs (before public liability insurance went to infinity and beyond) - he had two Centurions amongst other things, a Saracen, Blitzes, Studebakers, L Rovers etc. and whenever he had a group for a tank ride ride, beforehand he went to great pains in explaining how to correctly board the tank, the dangers in being out of sight of the driver and crew commander, how bloody finger-choppingly dangerous hatches and doors were on all the vehicles - I remember him saying something about 'while they look like big toys - they're anything but'. He did all this without losing his sense of humour or instilling fear - but everyone had a profound, newfound respect for the vehicle and somehow that made the whole experience that much more special. I rode on a Centurion - not a toy - kind of thing...