Thanks for the ID Anthony. I was pretty sure the multi-barrelled AA was the Flakvierling 38 but I had no idea what the other one was.
They are actually available from the salvage yard here in Manitoba. They have sat there so long the carriages have sunk into the earth. The owner is going to have them lifted out soon.
PM me for contact info of the owner if someone is interested in them. They likely won't be cheap, but they won't break the bank either.
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