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Old 19-01-06, 04:53
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Default Re: Jeep Paint background

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Originally posted by Stewart Loy
In post-war paint, the 1st digit denotes the gloss factor of the paint. 2 = Flat. 3 = Lusterless. 4 = Gloss
#23070 is a post 1945 to mid-1950's Flat Olive Drab. It is a camouflage Green
#33070 is a post 1945 Semi gloss Olive Drab, and it is not the same as WW II Lusterless Olive Drab.
#33070 is somewhat close to WWII, but it is too gray to be a match for WW II Lusterless Olive Drab.
#33070 - 1941-43 (Early WW11 Darker OD) - FALSE!
#319 - 1944-45 (Late WW11 Lighter OD) - FALSE!
#24087 is Mid 1950's to Post Vietnam Flat Olive Drab
#34087 is Mid 1950's to Post Vietnam lusterless Olive Drab

Olive Drab paint is still available on the web and from dealers; however, there is currently no commercially available paint that is 100% the correct color for WWII Lusterless Olive Drab.
Some paint vendors will also tell you that Olive Drab #34087 is the same as WWII Lusterless Olive Drab, but this too is incorrect.

#34087 is a post-war color paint and although close, it is not the same color as the WWII #319 paint. Even so, 99% of WWII Jeep restorers paint their jeeps a #34087 Lusterless Olive Drab (Semi Gloss), because; it is pretty close to WWII #319; and because it is more water & stain repellent than #24087 Flat OD.
Stewart
Excellent to see all the arguments finally put to rest! 319 is the correct description of the WW2 US paint color as the colour 34087 was not even thought of then as it is a reference from US Federal Standards (FS 595, FS595a, and FS595b) that were introduced in the late 40's.

However, I do have one point of contention on your color codes. The system used for codes in FS595 uses 1xxxx for GLOSS, 2xxxx for SEMI-GLOSS, and 3xxxx for LUSTERLESS. 24087 and 34087 are the same colour with 24087 being semi-gloss and 34087 being a lusterless finish.

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Originally posted by JUAN PRIEN
This is the 6 pdr which i whant to buy, if the argentine army acept sell it out!!( very dificult). I have a doubt, is it a 6 pdr or an american 57 mm?. The wheel rubbers are the original?
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Originally posted by GUNNER
Hola Juan:

The gun in your photo is the American made copy of the British/Canadian 6 pounder and was called the 57mm M1.
Juan/Mike, I think this gun is actually a Commonwealth 6pdr with the 8.25-10 tyres. The US 57mm AT had rims with a negatively dished rim. See this 6pdr. A side pic of Juan's gun would help to ID it.
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