BTW folks ... what a nice Birthday present I received today ... someone advertized to give away a desk and I'm the lucky recipient ... it will be the first REAL desk I've ever owned ... its a wooden ex gov't office desk, 6' x 3' across the top, 3 drawers one side, two the other ... I finally have a place to file all my records and paperwork. Now, how wonderful a birthday gift is THAT!!! The gentleman is simply giving it away as it was given to him many years ago ... it's only costing me $20 to get it delivered tomorrow morning. Hot damn ... lucky