Hi,

Well, am still not clear what brought this post on to me from you Sean, because I don't know what post of mine, or comments, you're referring to. So, I'll go through the post of yours and try and respond to some of your comments and questions

With no quote of what I said, I don't know what you're upset with me about, so I'm not quite getting what attitudes I displayed .

Being born female, for me, in my own life, made me a target from toddlerhood and onwards of those adults who still viewed females as non-persons and targets of all sorts of behaviors justified by the attitudes that "female equals I'm entitled to do what I want to and with her and her life, her voice and choice do not exist". there are STILL many who do not view women/female as "people" ... I still meet them all the time. I learned young to try and avoid first, if not possible then passive or active submission, or else. We've not come so far as for those attituides and things to be history. Progress is slow, so rules and laws help a lot in the interim as the only checks and balances we can at least use to try and control behavior if the attitudes aren't "there yet. But that's only one form of "oppressiveness" amongst a whole lot of others when viewed from the perspective of "human rights and freedoms"

Aye, there's the rub, hey? Everyone, and every place, seems to have different opinions and ideas, and rules and laws, on where those lines should be, whose labors pay to keep those lines in place, etc. We not only want to survive as a practical functioning country, but also want to survive individually and socially. Somethings are literally esssential and fundamental to the survival of the country, others aren't. Where are the clear lines?

I'm not into ethnic cleansing or anything else along those lines, I am more into the idea of "destructive behavior cleansing" ... like terrorism and destructive criminal behaviors against others and society just because someone feels entitled or doesn't like how someone else looks or believes.

I go through life "female" and from birth, thats brought on all sorts of reactions and behaviors from people. Many neutral and nice "a person too". Many very negative depending on the other persons midsets. We are all targets to someone else, for something about us that the other doesn't like, or wants from us and feels entitled to take, even violently against the will, or surreptitiously behind the back, or simply snuff us out.

Being part Native Indian has been interesting as well ... there are some who know that and my little bit of Indian blood makes me a target of those who are pissed off at what some native activists have done and do. My daughter has African blood in her as well, from her father. She sometimes gets mistaken for being "Indian" ... as in India and areas. She's 23. Works her heinie off, is good hearted and harmless. An asset to society. Some people stop seeing beyond "One of them" ... stereotyping.

If anything, I would like to see the bullying and scapegoating aspects of society stopped. We're all paying for what others think, usually what others think of someone else :

That's life. It's all out of my power and control and I do what I can, here and there.

Thats sort of what I meant too with my comment about those guys/gals being on parade and doing a little sexual thing in the vehicle ... and why I said along the lines of "Well, if you want to be accepted and treated with more respect, or even just left alone to "be" ... in does NOT help your cause and gain you respect to do in-your-face deliberate rebelliousness sexual shenanigans to people whose acceptance and respect you're trying to "force" or gain. It only attracts more rejection and outrage for the disrespect. So ... "Don't be ridiculous".

Nice gay people who respect others and are great assets to society pay for the those other rebellious activistic behaviors through scapegoating. Gay is not the issue ... behaviors towards the rest of society is. At least thats how I see it.

Hmmm ... I hope I don't regret hitting send on this one, but what the heck, I've a I finally learned how to use sometimes About damned time too ... slow.

Karmen.