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Old 02-04-07, 23:12
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I may have to put forward my points to show where I am coming from. But I do respect the ambiguity of the evidence! Also I am only going by written evidence and you know the subject far more than I do Hanno!

The C8AX was according to the DND Chassis Model C.15441, i.e. 15-cwt, 4-wheel drive and the same as the C15A. I believe, but do stand corrected, that we discussed this at length before but I know as I get older my memory is corrupting. I am sure we discussed that the C8AX had uprated components to allow a 15-cwt capacity. Then again the C8AX is listed in the C8A Contracts listing, but contra that GM of Canada allocated the trucks a seperate Model Number from the "regular" C8A! If I can find the original British contract card for S/M 2394 I shall be interested to see what capacity the British Ministry of Supply rated them at. In the meantime what did the NZ forces rate them at please?

The C-GTs were Model C60441, i.e. 3-ton/60-cwt officially. Now, I agree that the CGT tractor did not have a load, but the 2-Pounder Portee used the same chassis, and was built alongside the 1941 Model CGTs for the MofS. However I have to argure the authorities against me here, as officially the MofS rated them at 30-cwt or 1 1/2 tons and not 3-tons. I know we have dicussed this before and I thought, again under correction, that we agreed that the GTs were indeed three-tonners. Post-war CGTs were rated at anything between 40 and 74 cwt, with "60 cwt lorry" being frequently quoted though many were registered as agricultural tractors. This is not absolute proof but is circumstantial evidence. However I do agree that at the very least the C-GT chassis was a 30-cwt load carrier, initially, although I think that the Portee rebuilds as G/S lorries was to 3-ton capacity. However I cannot prove that either way yet. The C60L 6-pounder Portees were indeed converted to 3-tonner G/S lorries but that has no bearing here.

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