Try that thread:
3 Ton Derrick
You may be talking of cross purposes here as the true derrick truck had a detachable boom that attached to the rear of the body and could come apart and store in the rear body, with a winch mounted on the body floor behind the cab. This did not slew but was rigid. These were originally 134inch wheelbase C60S or F60S chassis.
here is a model of it I made.
The second was more a mini crane on the back of a truck.
I do have a few official pics of the fixed boom one here that have been put up on MLU before but I am not sure where.
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