New Tobruk movie, cab 12 F60L

[Alex van de Wetering]

I don't know if this has been posted on the Forum before, but it seems there is a new (Czech) Tobruk movie coming up. You will find some screen shots here:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...d.php?t=133582

www.network54.com/Realm/UPLOADS_01/sfze0.jpg

This one is particularly interesting. Would this be the F60 from the Rokycany museum in a new paint scheme?...

Alex

[Kuno]

Looks very promising! The landscape is similar than what we would actually see around TOBRUK. I just hope that the scenes in the sanddunes should not play at TOBRUK because you won't find any of the within at least several hundred of kilometres...

[Keith Webb]

They went to soooo much trouble but forgot about the mirrors and the funny fuel filler neck... also looks like a horn in the wrong place.

The art department have had a field day weathering it.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

They went to soooo much trouble

Pity about the census number.........it is one allocated to an AEC Matador

sounding like a "rivet counter" now

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Pity about the census number.........it is one allocated to an AEC Matador

sounding like a "rivet counter" now

Just can't help ourselves, can we?

[Mike K]

That's not a bad effort . Only nerds like us would pick on the detail errors . I'd rather see a truck like that .... than the horrors you see in those 1960's movies .

I was involved in a TV mini series in 1984.. a story set in 1940, The Dunera Boys .I told the props person Jeeps were not around then, especially here in OZ . No, it's in the script she said .. They even had a Land Rover making up the numbers in a few of the long distance convoy scenes ! Some interesting people on the set. John Mellion, Bob Hoskins, Warren Mitchell , Maurie Fields .A few of us from the VMVC supplied vehicles ... I was driving C. Andersons Marmon around a lot.. The director wasn't impressed with me ... they had a scene set up .. 'action' .. the truck ran out of petrol ...if looks could kill ..oh dear .

Mike

[aj.lec]

looks like an extruded grill from a chev too
did any cab 12 fords come out with this type of grill ?

[Dusonn]

Hi there,

I took part on filming of this movie together with 30 other extras from different military history clubs. We spent a month in the desert of Tunisia sleeping in tents, wearing uniforms all the time and enjoying army life even in our free time. The dune pictures are not ment to be from Tobruk but from Agami training camp in Egypt where the Czechoslovak unit had been trained before they were transfered to Tobruk. No need to say that it was our lifetime experience.
There were some other vehicles apart from the F60, such as Bedford MWD, Bedford MW water tank and rare Ford WOT3.
You can check out some more pictures here:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/specialy...otogalerie.php

The website is in Czech only. There are pictures from actors physical training, preparations, filming etc. The movie is comming out in September.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Dusonn

Hi there,

I took part on filming of this movie together with 30 other extras from different military history clubs. We spent a month in the desert of Tunisia sleeping in tents, wearing uniforms all the time and enjoying army life even in our free time. The dune pictures are not ment to be from Tobruk but from Agami training camp in Egypt where the Czechoslovak unit had been trained before they were transfered to Tobruk. No need to say that it was our lifetime experience.
There were some other vehicles apart from the F60, such as Bedford MWD, Bedford MW water tank and rare Ford WOT3.
You can check out some more pictures here:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/specialy...otogalerie.php

The website is in Czech only. There are pictures from actors physical training, preparations, filming etc. The movie is comming out in September.

Certainly one to be seen.

Another angle on the F60L - there is something strange about the towing 'D's too. Apologies for being so picky! Oh, and the Div sign is on the wrong side, Ford badge missing, no caunter on canvas... Ooops - there I go again.

I agree with Mike, this is a big improvement on past movies indeed, and who, other than we pedants will ever notice the difference. If the storyline is strong and the storytelling compelling it will be a good movie.

And as for the grille - from surviving examples both types were used on Fords, with the Chev type being more common - sometimes they were even mixed on the same vehicle, possibly because of bonnet swaps.

[Keith Webb]

Oh, Howard...

[Keith Webb]

Lovely contemporary image here.

[Keith Webb]

What a good collection of pics!

Actually the browser copied the next pic in the sequence (this one) which is also interesting and is a 2-pdr portee C60L cab 12

[Keith Webb]

This was the one I meant to post for Mike:

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Actually the browser copied the next pic in the sequence (this one) which is also interesting and is a 2-pdr portee C60L cab 12

"Like new condition!! Just needs a tune-up, paint and tyres!!"

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

"Like new condition!! Just needs a tune-up, paint and tyres!!"

Well it probably wasn't far off new in age anyway.

Looks like an 88mm round may have found it.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Thanks Dusonn,

Really looks like a great movie. The F60L must indeed be the one from Rokycany, as some of the scenes even seem to have been filmed in the museum; I recognize the Hind chopper at the museum gate. Also the Bedford MWD fitted with a closed OX/OY closed cab must be the one from Rokycany, as well as the Cab13 F60L, which was probably the one formerly painted in RAF blue.

Great work....and great pictures!

Keith, From what I have heard the Cab 12 still has it's original rear body and canvas. I actually measured this truck for a scale model about a year ago. The guys at the Rokycany museum were kind enough to drive both the Ford cab12 as well as the cab13 in the sun for us. Both trucks are also on the forum somewhere, in their former colour schemes.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

The guys at the Rokycany museum were kind enough to drive both the Ford cab12 as well as the cab13 in the sun for us. Both trucks are also on the forum somewhere, in their former colour schemes.

Alex, here's your pic:



Linked from CMPs in Czech Republic

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

From what I have heard the Cab 12 still has it's original rear body and canvas.

It that case it could still have it´s orginal tyres. If not, someone in the Czech republic is making great looking tyres for CMPs!!!

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

This was the one I meant to post for Mike:

Yes, I saw those pics too and wondered what type of truck it was? A Morris-Commercial of course, but not a GS or Wireless. Some kind of Office?

I think I have seen this type before in German use, assuming it was one of their extensive conversions!

H.

[Dinty]

G'day All, Some one needs to teach them how to block a 'slouch hat' also, and why would you have a fixed bayonet in a bunker? other than that I would love to see the film, and just after reading about "Kuno's" recent sojourn into the Libyan desert and having a really good browse at some of the links he provided, mate what a buzz that would be anyway cheers Dennis

[Alex van de Wetering]

It that case it could still have it´s orginal tyres. If not, someone in the Czech republic is making great looking tyres for CMPs!!!

Hanno, The tyres are 11:00x20 from the brand "Barum". Pictures attached.

Yes, I saw those pics too and wondered what type of truck it was? A Morris-Commercial of course, but not a GS or Wireless. Some kind of Office?

I think I have seen this type before in German use, assuming it was one of their extensive conversions!

There is a small book about Morris Commercial with 1:76 scale drawings and pictures. It's in the Bellona style, but I believe it was published by "Fingerprint designs", if I remember correctly. The book also offers one or two pictures of the Morris with Office body, as was used just before the war and at the start of the war. I have only ever seen a few pictures of this type of body, but they are British made, that's for sure.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Hanno, The tyres are 11:00x20 from the brand "Barum". Pictures attached.

Excellent! Have tried googling a place that sells them, but no luck yet. Oh well, I need to buy a Big Wheel CMP first. . .

H,

[Mike K]

The Morris looks to be a OFFICE bodied variant ... the roll out canvas awnings and the doorway screens sort of lead me this way . Photos of them are fairly uncommon for some reason .

The OFFICE variant was more common than we think e.g., contract V4152 of 1941 included: 635 OFFICE BODY , 842 GS BODY, 379 WIRELESS and 384 COMPRESSOR with pto .

Why no surviving OFFICE versions around today ?

Mike

[Alex van de Wetering]

Excellent! Have tried googling a place that sells them, but no luck yet. Oh well, I need to buy a Big Wheel CMP first. . .

Hanno, I did the same a while ago, but I didn't have any luck either. Barum seems to have been integrated in Continental tyres and their focus seems to have changed to pessenger car tyres. I wasn't able to find a trace of the tyre-profile as displayed in this thread. It was funny however that I did find some "Mitas" tyres which were offered as Barum, although the image did show "Mitas" written on the side walls; Mitas tyres licence produced in the Czech republic?? Also some other brands, like starmaxx seem to offer tyres with reasonable profile, however none of them resemble the tyres pictures in this thread.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

The Morris looks to be a OFFICE bodied variant ... the roll out canvas awnings and the doorway screens sort of lead me this way . Photos of them are fairly uncommon for some reason .

Here's the first one I'd seen, hence my assumption it was a German conversion.



Source: Vollert, Jochen: Britische LKW im Dienste der Wehrmacht

[Les Freathy]

Just for interest heres a pic of the Morris office truck with the side penthouses erected
cheers
Les