Bren Carrier for sale on Milweb

[Neil Ashley]

This carrier which seems to fearture components from different marks of vehicle and various repro parts is currently for sale on Milweb.

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/la...ad=47215&cat=1

If the owner gets the 45000 euro he is asking it will be a new world record for a carrier.

[RichardT10829]

hehehehe sent him an email asking if he slipped with the zero's


would be an interesting buy for me this one..... bringing back a carrier from Italy (via all the area's my grandad had fought of course)


nice looking carrier none the less


Rich

[Jordan Baker]

Here are two more pictures of the same Carrier taken from the web.

[Dinty]

G'day All, The numbers on the side of the hull are different, 4 sale vehicle number T14017, pix of the carrier somewhere else are T14717 cheers Dennis

[Neil Ashley]

If the price is 4500 euro someone is going to have a very good deal.

I think he probably does mean 45000 euro and with the shortage of good carriers someone silly may pay it.

[Ron Pier]

Hi Neil and others. This is my first time on here! I have been following some of the threads lately. Especialy the derilict carrier coming from Canada. I'll follow that with interest. As Neil and Nigel know. I have owned a MK2 Canadian carrier for a good few years now. I have prepared it in Welsh Guard stowage, and it's marked up in 43rd Wessex.

Ron

[RichardT10829]

Ron, you have an awesome carrier ! are you in the UK ? mind folks Neil and I do not mean to cause offence or suggest the carrier on milweb is not worth much, its more a case of "BLIMEY ARE THEY FETCHING THAT MUCH" material value is in the eye of the beholder as they say

Ron can you email me your address so i can plot you on my map of carrier owners infact that goes for all you guys T16's etc etc if its a tracked carrier and you want to be plotted drop me an email

richard_sarah181105@btinternet.com


Richard

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

Blimey it worked, I'd better do another one before I forget how it's done? I only seem to be able to add one picture at a time??

Ron

Hallo and welcome, Ron! Nice carrier...

BTW, you can actually list five pics at a time... just look closely at the pop-up box instructions.

[Ron Pier]

Thanks for the compliment Geoff and Tim. I've realised you have to upload the pictures one at a time.
Ron

[Ron Pier]

Sorry I meant Richard not Tim.

[Nigel Watson]

Hi Ron
Good to see you on here. For those of you who may not know of Ron you must see his work, so I'm glad the photos of it are appearing. His carrier is fantastic as are all his other vehicles. His was one of the first carriers I viewed when starting the research for my books and left me thinking about mine!!!

Nigel

[Nigel Watson]

Originally Posted by Dinty

G'day All, The numbers on the side of the hull are different, 4 sale vehicle number T14017, pix of the carrier somewhere else are T14717 cheers Dennis

T14717 would make it a Car, Scout MkI ! It is sort of!! T14017 makes it a Sentinel Wagon built UC MkI (or MkII as Contract changed over to MkII at some stage in production).

Nigel

[Ron Pier]

Blimey Nigel, i've gone all giggly. Thanks for the compliment.

Ron

[Nigel Watson]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

Blimey Nigel, i've gone all giggly. Thanks for the compliment.

Ron

Too much champagne Ron!
I remember the first carrier I ever saw in real life too, Ronald Truscotts Loyd was the first I ever rode in and first Loyd I'd seen and yours was the one I remember seeing prior to my book research. So there!

You wouldn't like to take it over to Normandy and display it at Tilly sur Seulles. I would look after it. I'm attending the Normandy Book Fair which I was invited to, they were looking for a carrier to display outside their museum.

Nigel

[Ron Pier]

No carrier to Normandy this year Nigel. I'm heavily involved in the 65th motorcycle tour. We have a special invite from the mayor of Arramanches to attend the ceremonies on D Day, we are anticipating 130-150 bikes. Ron

[RichardT10829]

ok an update on this carrier, Antonio sent me a few pictures of it, a few things dont add up perhaps Nigel may clarify, but from my limited knowlege it appears to be a Mk1 fitted out with Mk2 bits, the front gunners plate is one peice without the fold down section (i thought this was mk2) the gauge is Mk2, the fender skirts appear not to be correct, nevertheless a really nice carrier, hope he gets what he wants for it !

Rich

[Neil Ashley]

We need to know the true number and date of manufacture stamped on the top front armour plate.

It certainly appears to be a Mk1 and if the head lights are correct of Canadian manufacture.

The Mk11 components are probably a post war add on.

So he is looking for 45,000 euro for the vehicle?

[RichardT10829]

yes, says he may have another up for sale shortly, we will have to wait and see what comes of this one, an awfull lot of money though

[malcolm erik bogaert]

Richard on milweb now a nice ammo box with all attachment plus rounds for Boys Anti-Tank rifle...not expensive at £65.0 no conection to this seller......regards malcolm

[Nigel Watson]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

ok an update on this carrier, Antonio sent me a few pictures of it, a few things dont add up perhaps Nigel may clarify, but from my limited knowlege it appears to be a Mk1 fitted out with Mk2 bits, the front gunners plate is one peice without the fold down section (i thought this was mk2) the gauge is Mk2, the fender skirts appear not to be correct, nevertheless a really nice carrier, hope he gets what he wants for it !

Hi Richard
It is always very difficult and at the same time one can't help but try and label carriers of this sort. As Neil suggests the only way of finding out which model of carrier this was manufactured as, is by its stamping numbers and even then it will only show the type it was ordered as. If for instance its numbers showed it to be part of a production of say 1000 MkI carriers but that sometime mid production the manufacturer changed to the MkII spec then did they stop the MkI before starting the MkII? Or did the MkI carry on with MkII parts until all MkI parts were used?
As far as the fixed side armour is concerned, early drawings show fixed armour on early MkI carriers, mine has fixed armour on its original front armour. Another upgrade within the MkI production?
Its all very interesting but it is great to see carriers "coming out" so to speak! The price? It only takes one but excessive I think. Its the price I would put on mine (because I didn't want to sell it!!) lol

Nigel

[Nigel Watson]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

No carrier to Normandy this year Nigel. I'm heavily involved in the 65th motorcycle tour. We have a special invite from the mayor of Arramanches to attend the ceremonies on D Day, we are anticipating 130-150 bikes. Ron

What about me, I'll look after it. It could sit proudly beside my books!!! And I could admire it and tick it over every now and then!

Nigel

[Ron Pier]

You should know me Nigel! I'm a bit of a girl when it comes to my paintwork!! I'm sure I've seen you in hobnails? Ron

[RichardT10829]

i have asked for the lower hull number and the serial number so will wait and see if he gets back to me.


Rich

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Neil Ashley

This carrier which seems to fearture components from different marks of vehicle and various repro parts is currently for sale on Milweb.
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/la...ad=47215&cat=1
If the owner gets the 45000 euro he is asking it will be a new world record for a carrier.

It´s re-advertised on MilWeb now:

Universal Bren Gun Carrier
Frame off restoration completed 20 years ago. Fully loaded with extra, radio Mk19 antennas, correct ammo boxes and such. Runs steers and brakes like new. Smooth and fun vehicle to drive if you are not sea sick. 39000 €uro OBO -serious buyers please.
+39-335-6231711
Antonio Gibertini

[RichardT10829]

I spoke to Antonio who was saying its a different carrier, apparently there are two.......... i fear a nose is growing longer....... clearly the same carrier