Gmc cck323

[KiwiKev]

The Earth Auger Chev / GMC in the Yankee Joe thread has got a couple of us here in NZ thinking. I own 2 x ACK352 GMC's (Short Wheel Base ex USMC) and a friend has a GMC CCK353 or rather most of one.

We would be very interested in getting more info / photos of the truck shown to confirm if it is a GMC and compare notes with the owner. The easiest way to confirm whether it's a GMC or a Chev will be the diffs/ wheels. The CCK has split diffs (Timken) and 5 stud wheels and the chev has Banjo diffs and 6 stud wheels.
Of particular interest is the rear of the chassis as the NZ one has had the chassis from behind the spring hangers cut off as it was used for some time as a Logging truck.

I have a manual for the CCK and one for the Buda Auger used on the ACK353, however I can find no information on the Auger for the CCK from the very few photos the CCK Auger seams to sit further back than the ACK's Auger. The Auger manual has several photos of the Auger and the ACK but does not mention the CCK, also the master parts list for the GMC does not list the CCK's Auger manufacturer only the Contract number of the CCK.
Of note the manual shows the 1939/40 ACK, the manual is dated Jan 1945 and was printed in 1952, the early Auger must of been in service along time.

Information from the CCK Manual
Contract: W-393-QM8797
Chassis: 41190 to 41209
USA number: W-003678 to W-003691

Contract: w-398-QM10314
Chassis: 41210 to 41221
USA number: W-004133 to W-004144

The NZ truck's chassis is 41215 which would make it W-004138
The Cab tag shows it as a type 1574 Cab

If anyone has any additional info on the CCK's and / or the Auger or can put us in touch with the current owner of the one shown in the Yankee Joe thread or any others, please get in touch.

All the best

Kevin

[Lynn Eades]

A panel beater in Hamilton (you'll know who he is) had (a few years ago) a complete and original Chevy Cargo Auger for sale. Where did it go?

[KiwiKev]

Hi Lynn,
Didn't know he was a Beater of Panels, but I do know that there was one that had its body scrapped as he thought it was a jackup and not original, it may have ben a different one.
There is one down in the deep dark South Island that was in Levin years ago, owned by the electricity Dept it was very complete, I even drove it once around the block and their line yard.
I had heard years ago that six of them had been brought into New Zealand post war.

Kev

[cliff]

Here is a scan of what is in "The Observers Fighting Vehicles Directory WW2", Revised Edition by Bart Vanderveen on the Earth borer.

You will note that it is NOT the military cab and body work so I suspect it is in fact a 4 X 4 version of the Civilian Model and this makes sense since it took over from the COE models. Only 100 were made so this makes it very rare and it is possible it is in fact extinct! I beleive the truck in the other thread is in fact either a Chev 4 X 4 or a modified CCKW 6X6 and not an original GMC-CCW. This is only my opinion based on the couple of old photos shown.

The scan is on it's side so I could make it as large as I could here on MLU

[KiwiKev]

Hi Cliff,
The one in Bart's "Bible" although labeled as a CCK353 the photo shows a ACK353, same as the one that is shown in the Buda Auger Manual.
The Master Parts list shows a total of 32 x CCK353 over two contracts in 1941 and 68 x ACK353 over two contracts in 1940

I have just spoken to the guy that owns the one here in NZ and he has compared the the cab he got with the CCK, the one on my ACK352 and one of an early CCKW, possible a CCKWX.
The three cabs are very similar with the same dash board with a coupe of difference each
The ACK has the hole for the windscreen winder as it has a civy windout windscreen, the CCK has the hole formed and looks like it was punch out by buba and the CCKWX has the hole formed by not punched they all have the rectangular gauge panel.

Hopefully we will eventually get to speak to the owner of the Australian one and confirm what it really is.
I will try and post some pictures but I need to fix my scanner first and get my son off the home PC.

All The best
Kev

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Kevin,

Very interesting to read what is (or could) still be out there. I think I have posted all I know in the threads "Yankee Joe" truck and GMC 4x4 Cargo Truck (over on the GMC CCKW forum).

Not sure what you mean by "CCK-323" in the title; you surely must mean CCK-353? Anyhow, I am looking forward to seeing your pictures.

Just for reference, I have attached some pictures of the GMC ACK-353 1-1/2 ton 4x4 Cargo Truck.

Hanno

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by KiwiKev

The easiest way to confirm whether it's a GMC or a Chev will be the diffs/ wheels. The CCK has split diffs (Timken) and 5 stud wheels and the chev has Banjo diffs and 6 stud wheels.

Hopefully we will eventually get to speak to the owner of the Australian one and confirm what it really is.

All The best
Kev

It's definately a Chev, not GMC. I think off the top of my head the model code was G6107 or similar??

I tried to source a couple of engine side panels with the Chevrolet stamping for the owner of this Auger truck from the Humphries' Yard in Nelson, and also know of another recently restored in Invercargill that was an ex-Fire Truck. The Nelson Chev had 6 stud wheels and Timken Diffs.

I'll add it to the list of vehicles requiring chasing for photos.

[Anthony Main]

Kev, You could Google, USAF Digging hole for Explosives, Sorce :life,
For a picture of the drill in use! The frame No. are stamped on the
front right hand side!
Anthony.

[Anthony Main]

I've Got the chassis data plates for three cck 353's 41190&41209
Have the del date of 7 9 41.but 41195 has a del date of 7 14 41.
Can any one explain why?

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Anthony Main

I've Got the chassis data plates for three cck 353's 41190&41209
Have the del date of 7 9 41.but 41195 has a del date of 7 14 41.
Can any one explain why?

The dates are written the American way - Month-Day-year

is it a delivery date or assembly date?

so 2 were delivered on July 9th, 1941 and the other on July 14th, 1941.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I have not found any evidence of a British CCK-353, though the US Army was a derivative of the 1941 CC-350 series.