T16 and Bren carriers for sale on Milweb

[Dwight Pruitt]

...but the opening bid is "up there."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=4074

[Hanno Spoelstra]

The auction for CT95067 ended without bids; an ad from the same seller (for same?) appeared on MilWeb yesterday:

"1943 T16 Universal Carrier
Price $17,500 Restored with 19 set, dummy Vickers MG & more! Located St, Charles GMHS Motor Pool Museum 1512 North 3rd Street. See web site for location directions. Contact me directly for questions, additional photos or appointment.
314-522-6781
Terry Johns 27 January '04"

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

The auction for CT95067 ended without bids; an ad from the same seller (for same?) appeared on MilWeb yesterday:

"1943 T16 Universal Carrier
Price $17,500 Restored with 19 set, dummy Vickers MG & more! Located St, Charles GMHS Motor Pool Museum 1512 North 3rd Street. See web site for location directions. Contact me directly for questions, additional photos or appointment.
314-522-6781
Terry Johns 27 January '04"

2nd try for this US 1943 FORD T16 UNIVERSAL (BREN-GUN) CARRIER

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Source: http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28781

Full tracked T 16 for sale in Nebraska it has the wrong motor in it and needs new side and front armor added but have local welding shop will add for around $1000.00 tracks are ok asking $5000.00 for the unit contact Kevin at (402)372-5110 so for around $6000.00 you could have a real head turner and a very nice toy to play with

(No connection with the seller.)

[TiredIron]

Howdy Gents,
As much as I hate to do this, I am way over my head in other projects. I have an Ex-Swiss U.S. built T16 for sale near Denver Colorado. This was one of the four that came out of Russ Morgans inventory years ago. The Gentleman I bought this project from started it buy having the Engine and Transmission sent out to a pro Ford Flat Head Shop and had the engine completely rebuilt and the tranny gone through. In the tranny they replaced the bearing and several gears. They weren't bad but the owner had extras that were new. The engine is bolted to the Bell housing and tranny and can be test ran is so desired, but as explained, they are redone like new. The only thing wrong that I can see that the shop didn't know any better and painted them red instead of Ford Blue. So far that has been the extent of this restoration. Everything as far as I know seems to be there.
All of the four units that came out of Ft. Collins were known to be farily nice Swiss units. Its time to completely strip the hull of the tracks and all interior controls....blast...prime....paint and reinstall.
The past owner said the only items he knew of that were so bad that they will need to be refabricated, were the control rods that lay right on the bottom as suffered the most rust. The hull still has original "T' numbers visable. I have been soaking all the hardware and fittings with "Kroil" since I have owned the project which has been less than 6-7 months. It was my dream and plan to attack this project and have a wonderful "Carrier"....but I just don't have the time to see it through right now.
The price FOB Sedalia Colorado is $14000 I do have a trailer and could help deliver within 100miles. The tracks are in typical good condition. I have manuals,spare boggies and some parts that only go with the project.
I can take pics....but please only to serious buyers. Looky-loos need not respond. 303-912-2170 MST

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Howdy Mr. TiredIron,

It would help if you post you name.
And one or two pictures would be welcome too, they work wonders when you try to sell something.

Thanks & regards,
Hanno
MLU forum moderator
http://www.geocities.com/t16carrier/

[sapper740]

If anyone is interested and doesn't mind braving the elements and a large Rotweiller in New Hampshire, there is a T16 for sale on ebay (auction 150217563693). Running gear looks to be complete, armour looks to be missing. Last bid was 13 hundred and change. Derek.

[horsa]

Saw that one in Cat Yellow. Almost looks like an International gravel bed being used for the upper body on it. So far it'd be worth the money and then some for good wheels, wheel assemblies and tracks. Not to mention rear end and engine for parts if nothing else.

If the snow inside would last long enough down here in Texas so my kids could play in it with the nice puppy, I might be tempted to go get it

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Interesting - this is the SECO conversion of the T16 into a load carrier. Note how a US mil spec cargo body has been fitted on top of the cut down hull. This "sword-turned-into-plougshare" could be worthwile to display (at least for a while?), as it tells a interesting tale.

BRENN T-16 CARRIER Item number: 150217563693
BRENN T-16 CARRIER. 1940'S VINTAGE. POWERED BY FORD FLAT HEAD V-8. THIS VEHICLE IS COMPLETE BUT HASN'T BEEN RUN IN YEARS. ENGINE DOES TURN OVER. HAS ORIGINAL KEYS IN IGNITION. SOLD AS IS.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by sapper740

Last bid was 13 hundred and change.

Winning one was US $4,210.60 by a Mr. "kubel353".

H.

[carrierbarry]

T16 for sale on french e bay # 250342865856

Swiss model complete including canvas cover.

Was this canvas cover correct?

Merry xmas

Barry
London
MKII

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Barry,

Thanks for spotting this one. It failed to sell this time, but it will no doubt pop up on Ebay later again.

Cheers,
Hanno

UNIVERSAL CARRIER T16 USA DE 1943
CHENILLETTE BLINDEE Item number: 250342865856

Starting bid: EUR 25,000.00 (approximately US $34,797.50)
Ended: Dec-24-08 03:51:51 PST
Ships to: Will arrange for local pickup only (no shipping).
Item location: Colombier VD, Switzerland
History: 0 bids

Chenillette Blindée , usage dans l'armée Suisse ( 1950-1960 )

production env. 13'893 entre 1943-1945

vehicule en parfait état de marche, superbe vehicule de collection

en état d'origine

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by carrierbarry

Was this canvas cover correct?

Barry,

The Swiss conversion of the T16 included an elaborate canvas cover.

See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...al_Carrier.jpg for a picture of the T16 on display at Thun.

Hanno

[RichardT10829]

currently on milweb. I have no connection to the seller

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/la...ad=47093&cat=1

Very good hull, upper armour, good road wheels/springs,steering levers,gearchange, NOS rear axle ,oil coolers there, drivers seat,dash panel,tracks and V8 included.
Northants, sensible offers please.
07850 510103
Peter

Richie

[malcolm erik bogaert]

Richard I have communicated with the chap and he's loking for offers in the region of £10,000.00. to expensive for me this time! cheers malcolm

[RichardT10829]

Mal, did you have any joy with Clive ? or had that one gone ?

on my limited experience i would say 10k was a fair price bearing in mind has the track all the linkages dash pannel and v8 plus the hull is in good state too. not a bad T16.......trouble is i have my Mk1 now and Ken did not drive T16's

[RichardT10829]

as per title folks, i really like the T16 but alas dont have 20K+ otherwise i would snap it up.

the bren carrier has been on here before I think, cant recall if it was made by sentinel wagon or if there was some issue i cant find the thread but it looks like the same carrier. I know one chap but have only met him once and not technically affiliated etc etc.

here is the link

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1

Bren carrier:-
Bren Carrier, Universal Number2 Mk2 *
For restoration. All major parts present, engine is good, some parts already overhauled, loads of new parts. 80% there. Missing some armour and tin work. Used at War & Peace in diaroma hence paint job, £16,500.
07786 684730

T16:-
Restored in 1980 and now in need of doing once more.
All complete, but needing stripping, cleaning an repainting.
Based in Kent.
£25,000 - please call or e mail. 07989 576482
Serious enquiries only -No photo hunters please.

strange how this one is on modern plates and unless my eyes decieve me wont be tax exempt.... V I think is 1980's reg ?????? i think i would be re registering it if it was.

[shaun]

Hi Richie,
This is not my sentinal hull, not selling that at the moment. this is a Canadian lower hull, it still has the lower hull number visable on the rear angle iron. it has no rot and needs most of the top armour making apart from the spare gunners and drivers armour which has been temporaly bolted on. it was made to look like a captured "bren carrier" for our desert display at the war and peace show this year (are we going to see you there next yea ?). glad to see you are progressing with your project.
TTFN Shaun

[RichardT10829]

yes matey i will be there if its on foot, in my carrier, in another carrier..... will be there though.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

T16:-
Restored in 1980 and now in need of doing once more.
All complete, but needing stripping, cleaning an repainting.

The slope on the front hull makes me think there is more knee room for the driver. Can anyone with 'seat time' confirm?

[horsa]

There is lots of room for knees and heavier set people up front in both positions on a T-16. Plus steering is with tiller bars so you don't have a vertical wheel in your chest taking up space as on other types of carriers.

Nuts and bolts are all modern fine or coarse thread so even grade 8 replacements are easy to source and affordable. And most of the engine, tranny and brake parts are readily available, having been used for 20+ years on common commercial Ford vehicles.

Some of the reasons I went that route instead of getting a more traditional British/Canadian Mk I or Mk II pattern. Link below is the MLU thread where I have a series of photos of my vehicle being restored so you can see the space available if you browse through them.

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9136

[Dinty]

G'day All, just for information ebay T16 carrier for sale item number 290027827620, sorry I dont know how to link anything, item located in the US (Phoenix Arizona I think) cheers Dennis

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Canadian T16 Bren Carrier WWII Good restoration project Item number: 290027827620.

This is one of Rod Shaver's T16's. Seems this owner didn't do much to it (exept bump up the price).

[Eric Korhonen]

While searching on Ebay I came across a T-16 that is for sale in Belgium. It has no top armour on it and had a lot of other modifications done to it. Starting bid is 2,500 Eruo's or buy now for 3,500 Eruo's. It is listed on Ebay.ca Item # 300152066455. Looks like it would be alot of work to get it back to original but if some one really didn't like themselves they could do it.

Eric

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Hi Eric,

This T16 was auction on Ebay France not that long ago. If I remember correctly it was for about half of the current starting bid.

Except for wheels & tracks, not a lot of usable parts on this one.

Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

This T16 was auction on Ebay France not that long ago. If I remember correctly it was for about half of the current starting bid.

Except for wheels & tracks, not a lot of usable parts on this one.

found these pics on my hard disk & remembered this thread . . . . wonder where it ended up

[daninnm]

I have decided that I need to work on the Stag (T17E1) instead of the T16 so - I need to find a home for my T16 project. (ACTUALLY, I NEED THE SPACE TO BRING THE T17E1 INTO THE SHOP AND THE SPACE CURRENTLY OCCUPED BY THE T16 IS THAT SPACE!!!!) I have redone the motor and reinstalled it in the chassis. Every part for the correct T16 back to Ford condition for WWII mfg is included. Even the correct horizonal barred siren. The fuel tanks and the fuel tank boxs and tool boxes are repro'ed and ready to go and are included. Includes all the Piat, Enfield, and Bren brackets and the 2" mortar bracket as well. This Universal Carrier is ready to be bolted back together......I have the pictures of all the parts included. Rod Shaver - the guy that has the carrier parts int he States knows what I have and I manufactured manyof the missing Universal Carrier parts for him and for me....602-421-0858. If I start bolting it back together, I will begin to raise the price and maybe singificantly since a completed UC is worth a lot more than I am asking for this bolt-together project. There are extra track pins included. A few extra track sections also included. Can transport a reasonable distance for diesel and motel costs.
Call DaninNM to discuss 505-269-2056

[Eric Franzen]

We're restoring two T16s, so we'll be in touch.

Eric

[daninnm]

Kool - enjoyed the conversation - more later - call anytime!

DaniNM
505-269-2056

[Eric Franzen]

Appreciated your time too Dan. I feel like there is some hope for a couple of slow starters now.


Eric