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Project vehicle ? Preferably tracked
Folks, a pal of mine had a good idea about perhaps creating a small syndicate to get me back on the ladder ? The vehicle would be kept away from home, and thus safer ! And between us we could manage costs to restore and run, more easily.
I know syndicates do have a draw back, but at the minute it's probably my best option. If anyone has anything for sale please email me with details etc In a perfect world it would be a carrier, but I / we are open minded. Would like to stick with ww2 era kit though. Funds ready and waiting. Thanks again Richie
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Rich, didn't you have a dingo on your vehicle list once ?. You still working on it?
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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There are a couple of Weasel projects up for grabs in Norway.....
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Cheers Hanno, can they be used on roads ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Richard, I think the "official" wartime tracks have some deep track grousers on them. I followed a weasel in my bren carrier at one of the winter battle of the Bulge reenactments here in Pennsylvania, and I was watching him chew up the ice. The same ice that my tracks were spinning on.
They may well be some post war rubber ones that don't use the grousers, but just be aware that the cleated ones are on a lot of them. |
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Weasel.... poor man's carrier....
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Marc van Aalderen Daimler Dingo Mk1B 1941 Daimler Armoured Car Mk1 1943 Daimler Ferret Mk1/1 1959 Ford Universal Carrier No2 MkII* 1944 Ford GPW British Airborne 1944 Lightweight 10 Cwt Trailer SS Cars Ltd 1944 Anti-Tank Gun 6 Pdr 7 Cwt MkII 1942 Daf Trailer YAA602 1954 Daf Trailer AT16-24-1NL 1977 Daf 2100Turbo 1982 |
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True.
The ideal would be a carrier not even snobby enough to ask for Mk 1's only !
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Yes, they have rubber pads on their tracks. Tracks are their weakest link though, but newly-made ones are available as well as refurbishment technologies.
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Thanks Hanno.
Will have a look see. I really really really miss my carrier. It's new owner has had it to numerous shows since buying it....keeps sending me pics of it which is great but stings at the same time. I am happy that it went to a good home though.
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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wait for a carrier to come along, it won't be too long before one comes up
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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Richie,
For interest, here are links to the two weasel aftermarket track manufacturers. https://www.facebook.com/LibertyAutoRestoration/ http://www.staman.nl/ If you were to decide to restore a weasel and fit Staman tracks, could I suggest that you ring Tony at Axholm signs and gauge his opinion on both owning a weasel and the rubber track system. I don't think Liberty are making their tracks nowadays, but if they were, you would need to take a second mortgage out on your house to pay for them and the shipping from the USA to UK. As an example, back in 2013 my LAR tracks cost $9500USD plus shipping. Good luck with your final vehicle choice although as an added incentive, weasels do float if you are nautically inclined . Just out of interest, will a carrier float without added buoyancy? Cheers John W. |
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You can re-band your existing grousers and then essentially have new tracks for approximately $1500-$2000US plus your own sweat equity. I know because I rebuilt the pair on our M29C Weasel right after I finished the work on my T-16.
With a good engine, it will fly over rough ground without beating you to death like a jeep would do. Gives the smooth sensation of being in a boat. Very fun to drive but its not the same as armor. They are referenced in some wartime British regimental war diaries as continuous tracked carriers and are one of something like 28 patterns of "universal carriers" that were in British service. They were even used in the Netherlands by some of the tank units so vehicle commanders could be gathered for briefings since conditions often made it difficult for them to go in their tanks.
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Three short video clips showing my father driving the Weasel after the track rebuild. He's pretty big at roughly 240lbs and over 65 years of age when this was shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTSLWEdTIfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9RhHaAHzqQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGpt4XRubM
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Richard, My advice is to go with Ricks advice. You said that a carrier is what you want.
If it must be joint owned go with a 51% share holding.
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Thanks folks, I still need to hash out the terms of the syndicate with my pal, it's not something I have done before.
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Hi Richard, I'd have trouble with the joint ownership.
I'd like to see you get one of your own (if it's at all possible, with the blessing of your partner)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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would love one on my own, but it couldn't live at home, and what I could afford on my own plus shipping at the minute is on the meagre side.
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Ease back into the restoration world with a jeep. That way you can take the wife for a Sunday drive with it and get her to go with you to a vehicle rally. Then she'll feel part of the group and you'll be free to expand into other ventures with her blessing. Gotta keep the softer half happy
I take the wife and kids to casual outdoor cars shows with our jeep and it's usually the only OD vehicle in attendance. But the spectators love to see it and the wife enjoys talking with them. Occasionally it pisses off the high-end custom vehicle owners because it draws people away from their expensive trailer queens but that's life. PS- I agree with Lynn that sharing a project with a friend will never go well.
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David Gordon - MVPA # 15292 '41 Willys MB British Airborne Jeep '42 Excelsior Welbike Mark I '43 BSA Folding Military Bicycle '44 Orme-Evans Airborne Trailer No. 1 Mk. II '44 Airborne 100-Gallon Water Bowser Trailer '44 Jowett Cars 4.2-Inch Towed Mortar '44 Daimler Scout Car Mark II '45 Studebaker M29C Weasel |
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