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Old 14-11-07, 12:23
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Wayne H has asked me to post these three pics of an original Carrier LP2A, which has been significantly modified by a WA group, to depict a Panzerkampfwagen II (Panzer Mk 2). Albert Speer would be rightly proud of this one !

I'm told that the extra sheet metal is 6mm thick and that it has a large offset V8 coupled to an automatic gearbox.

The original carrier hull has been lengthened by around 4 feet and when the vehicle is completed it will have a gas operated 20mm cannon mounted. Weight will be around the 4-5 ton mark.

It has hydraulic steering and an electrically traversed turret.

Interesting and an unbelievable amount of work.



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Old 14-11-07, 12:24
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Old 14-11-07, 12:25
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Old 14-11-07, 12:37
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Nice quality work boys, would not pick it as a carrier hull as a starting point.

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Old 15-11-07, 07:25
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Truly impressive job, blown away.
Will love to see more pics of this as work progresses. Twist Wayne's arm for a pic of the engine. Will we see it finished as a DAK vehicle?
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Old 15-11-07, 08:27
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What was it's Hull Number and year & place of manufacture?
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Old 15-11-07, 09:17
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Hi Bob,
No numbers on this hull as there was minimal side armor and no front plate. Not needed for the end product. Not a W.A carrier as we no longer cut them up. (isn't that right Murray)
12 road wheels were swapped for two cartons of beer, I know that's double the usual price but sometimes you just have to pay.
The Hull was picked from one of 7 wrecks at our infamous local scrap dealer/ military collector.

Hi Ryan,
The end product will unfortunately be painted grey and not the DAK yellow. The guys that built this are "dress up types" and the clothes they wear are black.
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Old 15-11-07, 10:02
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What are the Hull Numbers of the six left at the scrappies?
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Old 15-11-07, 20:15
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Awesome job guys, most impressive, the amount of work thats gone into this machine must be huge. Do the road wheels have working suspension ? or are the leaf springs etc for looks ?
Could we have some internal shots please and when shes finished can I come and have a look
cheers David....
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Old 21-11-07, 14:17
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Beautiful work! After making the panzer Mk 1 mockup, I can sure appreciate the time and effort you must have put into this one!

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Old 26-11-07, 03:01
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Yes Wayne, you're right, we don't cut up WA carriers anymore. For those few who don't know, back in the middle 1980's I acquired a LP2a much the worse for wear and learnt that back in the 1950's, the army had towed many carriers out to a National ParK on the outskirts of perth and threw them down a steep hill in thick bush. For the next several years they used them as target practice, even hitting them sometimes.

Needing front, back and side armour I went up there with the dreaded gas axe and spent a weekend at the closest carrier, lugging huge lumps of steel up a huge hill (aided by millions of bushflies) The Parks Authority had decreed that the 9 carriers could not be dragged through thir precious bush at all.
I found out later that my doner carrier was a fairly rare one of a 100 plus made in 1941-2 in WA (at the State Engineering Works, North Fremantle). When I realised this I made the mistake of telling someone and I'm still being reminded of it.

The Parks Authority have now decreed that there might be unexploded ordnance in the area (even though all the rounds used were A.P. solid shot.) and have banned any human activity in the area. Before they did that though Graeme Stephens spent some time there acquiring stuff for his carrier and took the effort to log all carriers details and photograph them. I dont know if anyone would be interested in seeing them?

Below is my carrier as found and completed. Sadly it hasn't moved for probably 8=9 years now.
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Old 26-11-07, 03:40
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YES YES YES I want to see PLEEEEEEase.
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I too would be interested in seeing the photos you speak of. I'm sure many people would agree with me on that.
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Old 26-11-07, 04:40
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I too would be interested in seeing the photos you speak of. I'm sure many people would agree with me on that.
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Old 26-11-07, 07:08
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Graeme (for all his other faults) has done a magnificent job of documenting and photographing these carriers. There are 22 pagges in all. I've converted it to a pdf file which can be read with Adobe Reader and has reduced it from 33mbs to 2.1mbs.
Hopefully that will sneak under the limit for attachments.
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Old 26-11-07, 07:10
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Nope the Forum cant handle pdf it seems. I'll find another way standby
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Old 26-11-07, 07:16
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Don't do it Murray, the place will be swarming with Victorians with tilt trays...
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Old 26-11-07, 07:41
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Dont panic wayne, the bushflies will stop them.

I'll try to attach the first 5 pages here

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Old 26-11-07, 07:43
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Old 26-11-07, 07:59
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