M151A2 door mounting?

super dave · #1 02-10-09, 06:23

Hello all, I have recently acquired a M151A2 mutt and it had a hard top made for it when I got it but has since been removed. I was given what was left of the top that someone had made into a partial top and I am in the search for the soft top pieces. I have a couple of door frames but I am puzzled in how they mount. I looked at the previous threads but I did not see how they mount, Does anyone have any detailed pictures of how the doors mount to the body???

Dave

maple_leaf_eh · #2 03-10-09, 02:51

As I recall ... there is a cord sewn into the front edge of the door fabric. It slides into a track on the windshield and secures with twist-knob buttons on the main body. The lower hinge of the door fits either a hole or a sheet metal 'holster' on the outside body. The top hinge fits a tube or hole attached to the top edge of the windshield. The door handle is just a swinging arm the catches on the pole in the side curtain.

There have been some good photos on the board lately. See how well this description matches the photo evidence.

rob love · #3 03-10-09, 03:33

I think Terry is thinking of the M38A1. The mutt does not fasten with turnbuttons; just the curtain sliding into the channel at the front. The hinge (?) bar of the door fits into the little cup on the side of the mutt outside of the jeep approx where the driver's ankle is. The upper portion of the door goes into a little tin piece on the rod that ran between the rollcage and the windshield. The door handles closed onto the rollcage. Lastly, there was a webbing strap on the side of the door which held the door in place through a footman loop at the front bottom of the door opening.

I have the CFTOs at home showing the modifications and installation of the doors and their components, but I will be away until January. If you still need the info I can scan and post it then.

paul53 · #4 03-10-09, 05:05

Hello Dave,

There are two types of door frames used, Canadian type and of course the U.S. type, going by your picture you have the CDN modification done.

You can see on the body side down by your foot area, a small flat plate with a short piece of pipe welded to it, then bolted with two 1/4 inch bolts. This is were the original verticle rod pocket was. The CDN door frame uses two CDN made brackets one bottom the other on the top.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE in the CDN made door is there one piece welded frame ( I have two of these ) and has a deeper inside handle to go around the CDN roll bar. The U.S. type is kinda neat, It folds up to put it away for storage but can be wobbly while on the jeep and not very ridged. You also need with this type 2 verticle rods at the rear of the door to keep the door closed. I have both types so I could take a photo for you.

I dont have spare CDN frames but I have new door skins as well as side curtians , If your intrested ?? I just have to find them ......

Like I mentioned I could send a few picture's your way.

Thanks Paul, CDN M151a2 owner

paul53 · #5 03-10-09, 05:30

Sorry dave, kinda left you hanging with the answer to your question?

The CDN made one piece welded door frame pivots in that lower bracket on the the side of your jeep, you should have another one up top on the windshield frame- it looks kinda the same...

The U.S. type slides down into a verticle pocket very near that lower bracket. It's a CDN modification, I like the one piece door frame my self, alot more rigid. I dont have any spare CDN door frames but you could try e-mailing Mark at ( markcos151@msn.com ) and see if he has anymore.

I did purchase N.O.S. CDN frames from him

Thanks Paul

super dave · #6 03-10-09, 07:00

Thanks for the response, It makes a little more sense now. Paul I will take you up on your offer of the pictures of how it all comes together and I would be interested in the door skins and side curtains, Just PM me and I can give you my email address and we can discuss it further.

Dave

super dave · #7 03-10-09, 07:04

Just to ad I have the door frames but I was trying to figure what held the top and the side curtains around the door.

paul53 · #8 05-10-09, 04:22

Hello Dave,

Here is a picture of the top door pivot, really all it is is some flat stock and a piece of pipe welded to it with a angle cut to fit the windshield.
I just attached it to the top edge for your picture, you can see I have removed the CDN roll bar and mounted the original top rails which are secured on the rear wheel house. I did have the top and doors on during the spring but removed them for the summer. I did forgot somehow to take a picture of the rear rod for the curtian and the top rod that helps holds it all together. I'll do that monday.....

If you need measurements of the top pivots let me know, can measure up for you. I'll keep you posted on the rest

Cheers Paul

paul53 · #9 05-10-09, 04:48

Hi Dave,

I found some pictures I had taken some time ago, another fella in my town has a M151A2 that he brought up from the states. You can see how the U.S. ones use the roll bar as well as the canvas support rods. He has never insured it for the road and lets his grand kids drive it around on the farm.

Thought some one might be intrested to see how the U.S. builds them...

Paul

super dave · #10 05-10-09, 08:11

Thanks for the pictures Paul, You have a nice looking MUTT there. I look forward to the pictures of the horizontal and vertical rods and some measurements if possible.

Dave

paul53 · #11 06-10-09, 00:53

Hi Dave, Thanks she's a fun buggy to drive around

Here's a few shots of the left door frame mounted, I'll PM you the measurments for the rods, but you can kind of see how it works from here. Because I removed the CDN roll bar I'm using the U.S. top system, but I also can use the CDN doors, I have other verticle curtain rods made due to the iniside door closer using the roll bar to keep the doors closed.

As for the verticle curtain rod , it's 3/8 rod with a 12 inch long 1 inch wide flat bar welded to it. I ran out of room for pictures on this post so i'll put more on the next. There is also a horizontal rod from the windshield to curtian rod for door opening

I have enough items to make it look U.S. or back to stock CDN , the fender mirrors I removed but have them still as well as the grill/screen guard.

I did dig out a N.O.S. olive drab set of doors and curtains from when I purchased them last year, so i'll PM you on that idea if your intrested.

Paul

paul53 · #12 06-10-09, 01:00

Dave, here's a few more pictures as well as the skins. I'll draw up the measurements tonight and PM you.

hope it all helps

Paul

super dave · #13 06-10-09, 02:52

Thanks Paul for the pictures as they help a great deal. Looking forward to your PM regarding the door, side curtains and the measurements.

Dave