hydraulic carrier brake parts

20387774 · #1 23-02-10, 04:18

Has anyone ever converted their carrier to hydraulic brakes? I'm converting a carrier hull over and wanted to know if anyone has done this. I need to replace the mechanical wheel cylinders with hydraulic ones. Does anyone know what hydraulic cylinders would work?

John

Jordan Baker · #2 23-02-10, 04:58

John, I'd think the standard Ford ones from the trucks would work. Check with Mac's to see what they have. Remember the carrier used the same or almost the same parts as the trucks.

rob love · #3 23-02-10, 14:06

Gordon Falk mentioned that he had seen a carrier where a farmer had done this modification. The biggest problem you will run into is if you are trying to use the brakes for all the steering and braking, vice using the track warp system. The brakes will overheat and develop brake fade if challenged with doing all the work.
I have seen where guys have installed disc breaks onto tracked vehicles. Apparently it is far preferable.

Ron Pier · #4 23-02-10, 14:47

I'm not thinking of doing this but i'm interested in the concept. Would you somehow be able to do it with two master cylinders? One each side for steering and both together for brakes. I'm trying to get my head round the mounting positions and linkage to achieve this. Ron

20387774 · #5 23-02-10, 14:49

Rob-We were told about the overheating problem, but we don't use the brakes enough to get them hot. They are just used for our Panzer mock up and we use it in parades and mock battles. The mechanical linkages we use now work OK, but require definite "armstrong" technique for steering. We're building a second one now and we want to upgrade the power plant and the brakes.

John

martyn · #6 23-02-10, 17:49

Hi my carrier had this conversion done to it, here is a couple of photos you may be able to zoom in and see hope they help you out, its two pistons with one fixed end so the move out at the top and bottom of the drum,
here is a link to my photos there maybe some usefull pickys on there.
http://picasaweb.google.com/daimlermk2 the yellow hull is the one with this conversion on it sorry the photos arnt in order.
martyn

Lynn Eades · #7 24-02-10, 02:01

Here is a picture of the rear axle in mine. This is original. 1 1/2 inch bore wheel cyl. Every thing in the front of the carrier was original, but back behind the cam plate, on the floor, each side was a bell crank, which operated a ford 1 1/4" master cyl. The two long brake rods, were shortened, and operated the bell crank.
On this set up, the back plates, and brake drums were cast up for the application, the brake shoes coming from one of the CMP's, and being bigger than other carriers.

George McKenzie · #8 27-02-10, 19:58

I have a parts one that has been changed to hydraulic steering .They used two master cylinders with short leavers for steering .I know of another one that is done like this .Both have the driver sitting at the back end of the carrier. There is a post of my carrier here on this forum a while ago .

martyn · #9 27-02-10, 20:30

just a thort would a T16 rear axle be better for this as you have 2 pairs of brakes the hub and the diff you could convert the hubs to hydraulic and make the diff brakes a foot brakes maybe ? that way you wouldnt be depending on one set of shoes to do all the steering and stopping ?
whilst were on the subject of T16s has anyone got a set of tillers and the drivers raised floor ?