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Old 09-02-04, 17:15
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I've just purchased several manuals from a guy in England. The first one is a small buff covered Instruction book printed in August 1940 and is basically a drivers handbook for both Ford & Chevolet Trucks. On the front of this one, written on in ink it says:
968 Coy RASC and then a guys name Arnold Imredon. On the first page at the top there is a vehicle number, that is CL 4425996. Anyone have an idea as to what vehicle this was ?
The second book is a Chevolet Illustrated Spare parts list 1940-1942, No 197 printed August 1942.
The other manual, I've never seen before.This one is a Maintainance Manual CB-C1 for modified conventional pattern vehicles, Chevolet 3 Ton 4x2. Models CC60L/x2-CC60L/x3, October 1944. All the above were printed in Canada.
According to the introduction, the CC60L/x2 was fitted with 10.50x16 tyres and a 2 speed rear axle, whilst the x3 version was a single speed rear axle, but was shod with dual 7.00x20 tyres. Both versions used a 216 engine, although the x3 version was fitted with a govoner. Does anyone know if any of these trucks have survived? Just inside the front cover there is a supplement for Tropical Maintainance, which makes me wonder if they where only supplied to Asia or maybe Australia.
I look forward to your feedback
Keith
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Old 09-02-04, 18:44
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I have tried to work out which truck CL 4425996 was, but to no avail. It has got to be a 30-cwt or above.

Yhe CC60L was a MCP, namely Model 1543. Here are examples of 1941 Model CC60L/x2 trucks sold off by the W.D. on the Civil market in 1947
1154302600
1154302872
1154302926
1154304161

In addition there were

2154303830 and 2154303831 which were registered on the civilian register when new because they were ambulances.

The CC60L was a MCP 1543 and offered in three versions. The 'X1' or whatever code indicates the end-user export market. 'X1' = 'ANY POINT EXCEPT FULLY BUILT UP'. 'X2' = 'UK FULLY BUILT UP', and 'X3' = 'INDIA CKD'.

All had 160 in wheelbase and broke down as follows:

X1 = DUAL REAR CIVILIAN WHEELS
X2 = SINGLE REAR MILITARY WHEELS
X3 = DUAL REAR CIVILIAN STYLE WHEELS
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Old 10-02-04, 10:31
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Hi David,
Thanks for trying to identify the truck from the census number found in the drivers instruction book.
The CC60L info is also helpful, as it shows two line drawings in the front of the manual, one as a chassis cab and the other one as a fully equipped truck. From this and your info, I think the drawings show the X3 and the X2, although there is no mention within the manual of the X1 variant. I would still like to know if any have survived, anywhere.
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Old 10-02-04, 12:53
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The other manual, I've never seen before.This one is a Maintainance Manual CB-C1 for modified conventional pattern vehicles, Chevolet 3 Ton 4x2. Models CC60L/x2-CC60L/x3, October 1944. All the above were printed in Canada.
According to the introduction, the CC60L/x2 was fitted with 10.50x16 tyres and a 2 speed rear axle, whilst the x3 version was a single speed rear axle, but was shod with dual 7.00x20 tyres. Both versions used a 216 engine, although the x3 version was fitted with a govoner. Does anyone know if any of these trucks have survived?
Keith, interesting finds!

See the thread "Unusual Chev" for a picture of a CC60L / Chevrolet Model 1543, as identified by David.

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Old 10-02-04, 14:04
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HI Hanno,
Thanks for the link on this thread, is'nt it amazing how information comes together. Based on the info so far, I reckon that the top picture in the link from Keith Webb is a CC60L /X2 160" wheelbase, model 1543. It looks too long to be a 134" version. The picture shown is spot on to the one shown in the manual, even down to the correct rear body, lockers, side stakes. Interestingly, the X3 version has a different front bumper and is not fitted with a brush guard or D shackles. I wonder if Keith has any more pictures he could share with us.
Keith
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Old 11-02-04, 10:01
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Hi Keith,

I concur that it must be the CC60L/X2 with 160" wheelbase.



Have never seen or heard of any of these surviving, nor of its Ford counterpart, the FC60L. I was suprised to hear about a surviving Fargo FL-4, a badge-engineered version of the Dodge D60L. Being very useful trucks for civilian haulers after the war, I think they were all worked to death.
The most we can hope for at the moment are pictures - but we'll have to wait until Keefy comes back from his trip to Canada and the UK!

H.
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Old 11-02-04, 22:07
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Hanno

What a handsome truck it is, Agent 'O' kindly let me turn the pages of the manual, real A1 condition and most interesting especially the two speed axle arrangement.
Doesn’t it make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up when you come across such rare trucks, if I could find one I may be tempted to trade the C15A for it.

Pete
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Old 12-02-04, 10:29
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Pete,

Just check Vanderveen's for a picture of the FC60L, Ford's counterpart of this Chevrolet, and guess which handsome one I'd trade for any Chev any day

Hanno
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Old 18-02-04, 16:53
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Just check Vanderveen's for a picture of the FC60L
Or see Ford US trucks for RAF, Egypt" for a picture of the C098TFS, the 1940-model version.
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Old 18-02-04, 19:32
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I forgot I had this official shot!
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