Introduction and Dodge truck question

[Gerard van den Blink]

Goodday,
I'm Gerard van den Blink from holland and new on this forum.
Since a few months i own a 1940-1945 dodge cargo truck.
Its a pity that all the paper work went missing.
Working through the serialnumbers, chassisnumbers and type of trucks made the mystery only bigger of what type and production year it is.

Of what i allready read on this forum that won't be a proble here.

Number stamped in the chassis is: T110 L7 5105 C
Serial number in the cab is: 90025450
Cabin tag number: 4112-15237

The truck is built in Ontario.

Hoping that someone can help me out identifing this truck.

Gerard van den Blink

[maple_leaf_eh]

Welcome.

If you could post some pictures the answers may be more easy. Unfortunately a string of numbers won't mean a lot without some context.

[Gerard van den Blink]

Here are some pictures.
Hope the quality is ok.

[cliff]

a nice D60L you have there.

[Keith Webb]

Original NOS driver handbook... I've sent you a PM.
I see yours is T110-L-7. S/M 2458 was I think the Australian contract. Not sure how different the L-7 is.

[motto]

Welcome Gerard
Biggest difference would probably be L/H vs R/H drive Keith.

Dave

[Mike K]

Sort of looks like a 1939 or 40 model , the headlights are close to the grill but I see where the original headlight mounts have been moved

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
Many trucks like this arrived in france with the marshall plan,also sold under Fargo This one is maybe one, in france we have to put the head ligths down to be in the law.
Is the steering left?

Sylvain

[gordon]

Canadian-built right hand drive Dodge D60L ( long wheelbase ) light duty 3 ton truck, looks to be original, probably including the body floor and headboard.

The L7 is the batch number which suggests mid to late war. Not sure if it was originally a D60L or a D60L-D ( with dual rears )

Biggest point would be that only a very limited amount of US Dodge parts would fit this, since it has the 25" long engine.

[BCA]

Gerard: Your data plate serial number does not fall into the range for T110L-7 (going from both the May 1944 and August 1945 parts books for T-110-7 and 8 series). I have seen reference to T110L-14 models as being in a range of chassis numbers that includes your #90025450 but I do not know what the -14 suffix means. Maybe a your cab transplant or some T110L-7 chassis' were used to produce a very limited T110L-14 variation . Perhaps someone can review and clarify the general meaning of the Dodge numbering system. ......... Brian

[Niek Baecke]

i'm no expert but this looks like a civillian truck to me.

The Military ones didn't have the cowl lights.
The cabs from the military trucks could also separate, the roof could be removed for desert usage.
mid to late war versions would have had a roof hatch.

The T110 L14 was made after the war, mostly for export to europe i believe.
The L14 did feature a flatbed, like the truck mentioned above.
I do have a french ''Revue Technique'' Magazine from the early 50's which covers these trucks. The magazine doesn't mention any L7 suffix, but does mention the L14 as being a civillian truck with flatbed and cowl lights.
From what i can find, these trucks were LHD, with civillian Dashboard.

[Gerard van den Blink]

Thanks for your reactions,
The truck is left hand drive and has a civillian dasboard.
If i look in the Model chart and serial number guide,
The serial number correspondes with the trucks built for the canadian government, in that list its a model T110 L 14 3 ton truck made from '41-'45.
But if search for T110 L7 in the engineering code then its a DD-6S but then the load rating and the serial numbers doen't match.
On the side of the cabin is also painted the weight and load capacity, it is allowed to carry 4 metric tonnes.
Mayby as mentioned it's a mix of 2 types ( dont know how the accurate the factory was during wartime with numbers)
Also was i wandering where the 5105 C in the chassis number stand for, just a number or related to type.

The headlights are indeed relocated.

Engine and gearbox are sold by the previous owner, he planned to mount a cummins diesel.
I'm thinking of mounting a 318cu dodge engine with a 5 speed manual. the engine is a spare from my W200, lying idle in a corner.

[Yohay Shinar]

Gerard,

One question is whether the chassis plate and the cab belong together with the current chassis.

My guess is that they don't: this chassis number's pattern (ending with a C) is to be found with some Israeli T110s, and may have been allocated post-war.

The VIN itself (9---25450) is not included in the 1953 Chrysler serial numbers guide. However, if judged by adjacent sequences, it may have been produced in 1944-45. This also fits with the quite high cab number (Model 41-12, #15237).

Yohay

[Gerard van den Blink]

The vin number matches to trucks for the canadian government. i'm still not sure how to interprete the chassis number. It can be that the cab is replaced, but that would be many years ago.
The paperwork of the truck is gone, i have to get a new licence plate and papers for holland. That will not be a big problem, but it would be nice if the data would meet the facts.
And it's also nice to know a bit more about the truck

[Gerard van den Blink]

Thanks for the information. Still hoping that the vehicle papers will show up.
But i now have some leads.
Maybe somebody in the future may have the precise data.

[Gerard van den Blink]

I managed to get the serial number of the engine:

It is: T110 L7 9960 C

aybe somebody can pinpoint a fabrication dat or type. Or can give me a hint where to find data.

thanks,
Gerard