M813A1 CDN Question

[TJ Hall]

Good day
I was hoping that someone here would have some detailed pictures of the Canadian M813A1 with the skid-mounted fuel tanks. I am looking for any pictures of the CF amendments on the truck. This is for a 1/35 model project I'm working on. Thanks in advance.

[Ed Storey]

This image taken during RV 81 may help you out.

[rob love]

Don't forget to put the "hoodscoop" on the Canadian 5 ton hoods. Basically it was a sheet metal cover to cover the jake brake modification to the engines.

[Ed Storey]

From the Modification Instruction I have in my collection (C-30-470-000/CF-20), the Jacobs Engine Brake wasn't installed until 1983. The vehicle in my 1981 photograph does not have the signature engine hood assembly.

[rob love]

That was about the year I remember doing them.

Looking at your photo, it is not hard to see why transport Canada eventually decided that those tenders did not meet the standard. As I recall they were single wall tanks, and merely cargo strapping them in place hardly seems overly secure.

[TJ Hall]

I was hoping you two would be lurking around here. Ed, your article in Army Motors (yes I still call it Army Motors) really inspired me to build a 5 Ton from around RV86. Would the ND tiers still have been used? I know by RV92 (I was with the Strats then) they had a different pattern. also at that time would the spare tire have been moved to the back of the passenger side underneath the cargo box?

[Ed Storey]

Glad to hear that my History in Motion article was an inspiration.

Modification Instruction C-30-471-00/CF-002 directed that the spare tire be relocated from the cargo box to the where the tool box was located in 1983. Here is a photograph taken in Valcartier in 1984 showing the change, I did not photograph any of the M813A1s during RV85. This image may also answer your tire question.

[Wayne Hingley]

Ed: do you have an image of the tire carrier installation from the C-30-471-00/CF-002 instruction? I would like to see what the carrier assembly looks like, and how the spare was attached to the carrier.
Was it similar to that shown in my photo below?

[Ed Storey]

Here you go, Figure 14.

[rob love]

That looks like the same spare tire bracket as was used on the MLVW, and adapted to the 5 ton. For some reason I don't recall that modification.



As to the non-directional tires, as far as I remember, they were still available, however, on certain 5 tons, we installed the MLVW 1100-20 tires because of the better traction those tires provided on highway surfaces. Wreckers especially come to mind.

[Wayne Hingley]

Thanks. The assembly in my photo remains a mystery (...for now).

[TJ Hall]

Thanks everyone for all the great info and pictures. I can't believe I spent two years on these things in Gagetown (Petersville) and I can only find a hand full of pictures. Would anyone have detailed pictures of the cab cargo box . Thanks.

[TJ Hall]

Ed, Rob, Wayne Thank you for all your help and great pictures. All this will help me a lot. I will be starting this project soon on the Armorama site. Again thanks.