Carrier cammo

[42mk1carrier]

Guys, I have purched a 1942 Mk1 carrier hull # CT113354 from Jim Burill here in PA. Jim is working on getting a Humber armored car restored in the UK.So I talked him into selling me his carrier.
I have painted it CC#2 we had a NOS part to color match the paint. Now the ???? I saw that ACI1496 authorised CC#14 as the main tone over CC#2 Would this be correct for a 42 mfg. carrier.
Or should I just leave it CC#2 with no cammo at all????
And if I do cammo the carrier which cammo pattern is correct.
mickey mouse or the bold stripes.
Also I saw some carriers with the tricolor red white red allied markings on them and some with the U.S. star Which is correct for a 1942. Here in the US if you put a star on a M.V. the public thinks it's a U.S. M.V.
Thanks,
Stephen kantner
new carrier owner

[alleramilitaria]

you are right about the star, a guy at the local gun show where i had my carrier on display wanted to get in a fight with me about the stars on my carrier. he INSISTED that i had a US vehicle and how only the US had stars on the vehicles.

he also wanted to see my permit to leagely own a pice of armor. it would have been funny except that he was a police officer. some peoples kids.

dave

[42mk1carrier]

I know what you are talking about,Right now my carrier is still at Jim Burrill's house the guy I bought it from as I am working on it and not knowing too much about the carrier he is helping me put some of the finishing touches on it
I know when I bring it home the whole town will be talking how
Crazy steve has a tank in his grage And I am sure a visit from the local police will come at some point. They know me as I have Machineguns and it's a small town.
Is your carrier a Mk2???? are reenacting unit has 2 Mk1's and a Mk2 as well, No one has gotten back to me on my cammo ??????
yet I would like to have the markings correct for the year

[alleramilitaria]

i know about being the "crazy" person in town, but ow well. i have been doing british living history for 12 years and if its one thing i have learned its you will never have the RIGHT cammo job on your carrier. i just put the 3rd cammo pattern on my carrier and finaly i found one im happy with. my advice is find a good pic of your type of carrier with a good paint job and copy it. no mater how good it is someone will allways give you crap.

if you want on my web page i have a carrier regestory. i invite you as well as any other carrier owner to join it to list where the surviving carriers are. it helps draw us strange people together.

thanks
dave

[42mk1carrier]

Thanks Dave I guess your right someone will always find fault
with my paint job So I will paint it so I am happy with it:love: I have done some reserch on the subject
And will go with my best judgement

[Nigel Watson]

Stephen I have a MkI* (Canadian) carrier in desert colour sand and terracota, the allied vehicle recognition rectangle/square started life in the desert campaigns I believe as a white square (I have this on mine). This then changed briefly to white red white, before the red white red later on. So I think going for the latter would be ok for the Italy campaign. Many of the carriers, especially MkI (British) or MkI*s were 'borrowed' from the 8th Army.

Also I have spoken with a few desert veterans and the one thing they all mentioned was they moved the square from the middle of the sides to the rear of the side armour. The centre was too much of an aiming mark for the baddies!

Look forward to seeing some of your photos once complete.

Nigel

[alleramilitaria]

here is an even better one...
i was told my 44 Morris C8 was a US army hummer (the old version) due to the fact that it had a star on its door. ?!?!?!?!?! and this was by the german army.

dave

[42mk1carrier]

Thanks for the Info Nigel
I reenact the 15th Recce (Scottish) Regt here in the U.S.
Dave speaking of the German army. I reenacted the 916th/352nd
Inf Div.(German) for about 3 years. This week is the big east coast Battle of the Buldge at Fort Indiantown Gap here in Pa I think Sat I will go to walk around the flea market and try to sell off some of my german reenacting stuff.
My unit does not take the field at this event no too M.V. friendly
very few roads which to drive on at the base.
But the flea market is Great all the big WWII venders show up.
And now that I own a carrier I do not see myself doing a german impression any time soon and I like being on the allies side.
If I had a nickle for every woman who asked me why I dress like a nazi at living history events I could by a churchhill tank

[alleramilitaria]

yea but these were REAL german troops providing security in germany, not reeinactors.


dave

[cletrac (RIP)]

Look at the leaf camouflage thread in the softskin forum and follow Steve Guthries link. His site has some fairly comprehensive articles on camo in the various years. Your carrier could use either the MTP20 with the bold markings or MTP46 schemes although most carrier pix seem to use the MTP20. In the States if you used the two tone brown desert scheme with Canadian or British markings there'd be no question whether it's US or not. It was 1944 before they used the olive drab with the star on the door so you're safe there. A lot of the Canadian and Brit units painted the star upside down to piss off anybody who cared.

[42mk1carrier]

Hello go to the Military show and events forum.
to Market garden Nov 04.
The 7th Pic of the brown CC#2 carrier with the fat guy in the gunners spot is me and my Carrier
All the M.V.'s in the pic's are my unit the 15th Recce here in PA
Steve K