ford and Chev cab 12

[Max Hedges]

ford cab mount

[Max Hedges]

Chev cab mount, chev have put steel under the back corners of there cabs

[Phil Waterman]

Funny that you should post those pictures today I have been fitting new diamond plate on my Pattern 12 Chevy the last couple of days. and if you think about it with all the layers unders the seat in the Chevy there is over an inch of steel while in every other direction you have generally only one or two layers of 16 gage sheet metal.

Any body know what they used for the wood spacers oak or maple?

[Max Hedges]

ford cab 12

[Max Hedges]

chev cab 12 passenger side not alot of leg room

[Max Hedges]

finally going to put the headlights on my cab 12 had these sitting the box for a number of years

[Max Hedges]

chev cab 12 bonnet, did all these bonnets have a dome above the radiator cap similar to the Fords.

Max

[Keith Webb]

Originally posted by Max Hedges
chev cab 12 passenger side not alot of leg room

Not a lot of room for farmin' feet!

You can imagine how hot this would have been on a long desert trip in summer. All this and the occasional bullet or cannon shell flying your way.

One wheat farmer told me the soles of his shoes would start to melt in his cab 12 during harvest.

[cliff]

Very nice detail pics Max. Any chance of Emma being kind enough to shoot some pics of the semi trailer hookup on the CMP semi for me please?

cheers
Cliff

[Max Hedges]

Here you go Clif

[cliff]

Just what the doctor Ordered. Thank you Max and Emma

[Pete Ashby]

Originally posted by Max Hedges
chev cab 12 bonnet, did all these bonnets have a dome above the radiator cap similar to the Fords.

Max

Max

Well no not all are, the Chev bonnet is flat,

But my 12 cab Chev has a ford bonnet, factory photos and in service photos show this as well. I have also come across this phenomenon in a number of vehicles that have been broken for parts; it seems to be exclusive to trucks that do not have roof hatches.

I have a C30LAA 12 cab that also has a Ford bonnet.

I have an un-proven theory that the early 12 cab Chevs were supplied with Ford bonnets due to tooling problems in the Chev plants.

Having said that I have a 11/12 cab field conversion that I have broken for spares and that was fitted with a flat Chev bonnet.

Anyone else noticed this?


Pete

[Phil Waterman]

I've attached two pictures of the hood from my Pattern 12 C60L as you can see it has the dome. And from the inside picture you can see that it only has the two wide apart holes to mount the Chevy Bowtie no holes in the center for the smaller Ford Square emblem. So I don't know how this fits in to Peter's theory. But given the amount of Ford parts used I would not be surprized.

Do the Ford Pattern 12s have the same hindge design? If so and they got the distances right they would be likly to be mixed and matched.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

The original intention was that Fords would supply cabs to Oshawa and GM would supply chassis components to Windsor. However in due course this must have been decided as impractical.

[cliff]

Originally posted by Phil Waterman
Do the Ford Pattern 12s have the same hindge design? If so and they got the distances right they would be likly to be mixed and matched.

Does anyone have a pic or two showing the hinge setup with the bonnet up on a cab 11 or 12 please? Or if different some of both types including cab 13,s?

cheers
Cliff

[Phil Waterman]

Originally posted by cliff
Does anyone have a pic or two showing the hinge setup with the bonnet up on a cab 11 or 12 please? Or if different some of both types including cab 13,s?

cheers
Cliff

Pattern 12 C60L during disassembly

[cliff]

thank you Phil. That is a very interesting photo showing the heavy supports for the body panels.

cheers
Cliff

[Max Hedges]

Originally posted by cliff
Does anyone have a pic or two showing the hinge setup with the bonnet up on a cab 11 or 12 please? Or if different some of both types including cab 13,s?

cheers
Cliff

This is the only photo we have at the moment of the Chev

[Bob Carriere]

On my cab 11 they used wooden spacers similar to the Ford pictured on the e-mail. The spacers on my cab where either ash or white oak..... obviously discolored and aged quite a bit the they had the similar open grain structure found in oak or ash.

I will probably reproduce mine in oak sealed with polyurethane topped with OD .....

At the CC2 when we took apart a Chev cab 12 I did notice the heavy.... at least 1/2 inch steel reinforcement plates..... in each corner area of the cab..... I had no idea at the time whether they were original or retrofitted...... seems now that they were factory modifications...... although I do not recall seeing any such changes in the service bulletins from Alex Blair.

???? for Max........ in the Ford picture of the pedal cluster... what is that little rectangular door in the toe board????

...again if Ford had the luxury of rubber pads on the pedals what did the Chev have..... bare metal pedals????

...and finally the legs might fit better the tight confine of the Cab 11/12 if the hair had been shaven!!!!!

On the subject of shared Ford/Chev parts...... my cab 11 has a Ford grill and Ford door handles........ might explain why it wouldn't start........hahaha

Bob C.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Bob C.
On my cab 11 they used wooden spacers similar to the Ford pictured on the e-mail. The spacers on my cab where either ash or white oak..... obviously discolored and aged quite a bit the they had the similar open grain structure found in oak or ash.

I will probably reproduce mine in oak sealed with polyurethane topped with OD .....

At the CC2 when we took apart a Chev cab 12 I did notice the heavy.... at least 1/2 inch steel reinforcement plates..... in each corner area of the cab..... I had no idea at the time whether they were original or retrofitted...... seems now that they were factory modifications...... although I do not recall seeing any such changes in the service bulletins from Alex Blair.

???? for Max........ in the Ford picture of the pedal cluster... what is that little rectangular door in the toe board????

...again if Ford had the luxury of rubber pads on the pedals what did the Chev have..... bare metal pedals????

...and finally the legs might fit better the tight confine of the Cab 11/12 if the hair had been shaven!!!!!

On the subject of shared Ford/Chev parts...... my cab 11 has a Ford grill and Ford door handles........ might explain why it wouldn't start........hahaha

Bob C.

Bob..
Those spacers may be elm..Elm is as tough as it gets ..drive an nail in a piece of elm and then try to pull it out again...Grain looks like oak too..

[Max Hedges]

Originally posted by Bob C.
???? for Max........ in the Ford picture of the pedal cluster... what is that little rectangular door in the toe board????

Bob C.

Bob

The rectangular door, is the door for the control of the air flow through the vent. Chev have a round vent hole with a butterfly control, as pictured below.

Max

[cliff]

Thanks for the pics and explanations Max I appreciate it.