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Old 28-09-06, 03:33
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Default the windsor vs the T-16

hi
just a question for everyone....
after doing the research (and i do NOT mean to upset anyone) it seems that the windsor carrier was a better vehicle for towing artillery and as a transport that the T-16 (but still had flaws).

reasons
the windsor was easier to maintaine and not as complicated as the T-16.

there is much more room in the windsor.

you can use most UC parts on the windsor, not on the T-16

ok your thoughts here......
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Old 28-09-06, 11:10
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Default Re: the windsor vs the T-16

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Originally posted by alleramilitaria
after doing the research (and i do NOT mean to upset anyone) it seems that the windsor carrier was a better vehicle for towing artillery and as a transport that the T-16 (but still had flaws).

reasons
1) the windsor was easier to maintaine and not as complicated as the T-16.

2) there is much more room in the windsor.

3) you can use most UC parts on the windsor, not on the T-16
Hypothesis: "the windsor carrier was a better vehicle for towing artillery and as a transport that the T-16".

Re. 1) and 3) I can't see why the Windsor was easier to maintain than the T16. But if it was, why that would make it either a better towing or transport vehicle. The same applies for commonality of parts.
If a vehicle is easier to maintain and spares are available when and where needed, it improves the availability of the vehicle, not the suitability for a certain role.

Re. 2) Yes, there was a little more room in the Windor than the T16, so that speaks for the hypothesis that it is a better transport vehicle than the T16. But, more room is not necessarily better for towing artillery.

One reason you fail to mention is that the steering mechanism of the UC, which was applied to the Windsor also, was not effective on the Windsor with it's longer hull. It severly hampered mobility when loaded or when towing. It was for this reason Ford US decided to fit a proper controlled differential to the T16. So, that's a minus for your hypothesis.

Question: which sources did you use for your research?

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Old 28-09-06, 13:50
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good morning hanno...

i have worked on 4 T-16s and own 5 UCs. the T-16 with its all welded hull makes it harder to work on the stearing / brakes up front. also when pulling the motor it takes about 1-1.5 hrs to pull the winsor motor vrs about 3-6 hrs to pull the T-16s. the T-16 is so improved that parts are a BIG problem. the spark plug wires are built into the wireing system.


you are right about the steering being better in the T-16 (as well in the LP2) but its fun to spin the wheel. but really its not that much better to intreduce a entire new line of repare parts durring combat. but it does give you more room up front


with the extra room in the back you can carry the needed items / crew that is needed for the ATG or mortar. while the t-16 is just slightly bigger in the back than a UC MKi or 2 the windsor looks like you could have a party in the back of it.

im not trashing the T-16 or windsor just woule like to know why they had 2 diffrent vehicles doing the same job. and at 5000+ windsors it had to have its good points

hanno
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