morris motor parts needed

[alleramilitaria]

have a major problem with the motor I have for my 1944 morris CS8. I need the forward flywheel housing at the rear of the motor and the flywheel. do you know where I can get one?
thanks
Dave de morrow

[Mike Kelly]

Dave

Can you repair/weld it together ?

This pic depicts a C4 setup , maybe different to yours with 5 speed gearbox ?

Mike

[alleramilitaria]

thats the part i need, i now have a flywheel. the part is missing. my truck had a perkins P-6 installed and now we are taking it back to the morris 4 cyl. so the part was taken off for the retrofit and discarded.

any one have one?
dave

[Max Hedges]

Was the same part used on other morris trucks just after the war as I do have one of them here up the paddock sitting on some rocks.
Max

[alleramilitaria]

max i think it was
its for the 100mm 4cyl motor and i think it was comon for nearly all motor and trans combos.
how much ya want for it??????

[Max Hedges]

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
max i think it was
its for the 100mm 4cyl motor and i think it was comon for nearly all motor and trans combos.
how much ya want for it??????

dunno Dave....what ya reckon it's worth
Max

[alleramilitaria]

whats a number i can call ya at?
dave

[Max Hedges]

Dave here is a photo of the engine that is in the old truck, I don't have any other photos at the moment.
Max

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
thats the part i need, i now have a flywheel. the part is missing. my truck had a perkins P-6 installed and now we are taking it back to the morris 4 cyl. so the part was taken off for the retrofit and discarded.

any one have one?
dave

Young Rory Ballard has several spare, the parts list gives two types, C103 for the 6cyl and C103A for the 4cyl.

However, we have today put the two types together and see no difference, plus all have just C103 cast in them.

The pictured casting was pulled out of the (considerable) stock today and compared as identical to the item currently being re-assembled back with its wholly re-machined, new white metal, bored, new pistons and tappet block, 4 cyl engine; a 10 month wait at the specialist shop and a bill that would run our household for 3 months.

This part is available at a small charge I think if you speak to Rory but he has no time to crate it and fiddle about with shippers I'm afraid.

R.

[alleramilitaria]

do you have a way to contact him, phone no?
thanks
dave

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
do you have a way to contact him, phone no?
thanks
dave

Certainly, I go 400yds down the road and he'll be in the garage assembling our friend Matt's new Morris engine, or I'll PM you with a cell phone number. I think his partner has email but I have no idea what it is, best you speak.

Here's the "new" C4 engine as I left it 3 hours ago, probably they have a huge amount back together now since people were making paper gaskets, flatting/lapping the oil pump cover on a surface plate and throwing Hylomar at it back then!

Perhaps a trip down the road. . . . . . . . . . . . .

R.

[alleramilitaria]

here is mine

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
here is mine

Excellent!

You have the Morris engine green just about spot-bollock.

It's a brave man that takes on a MC here even when you have the ear and spares of The Morris Men of Shirrell Heath, in the USA its an entirely different proposition altogether!!

The PM should be with you now.

R.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Richard Notton
Certainly, I go 400yds down the road and he'll be in the garage assembling our friend Matt's new Morris engine, or I'll PM you with a cell phone number. I think his partner has email but I have no idea what it is, best you speak.

Here's the "new" C4 engine as I left it 3 hours ago, probably they have a huge amount back together now since people were making paper gaskets, flatting/lapping the oil pump cover on a surface plate and throwing Hylomar at it back then!

Perhaps a trip down the road. . . . . . . . . . . . .

R.

Richard.....

You said....

" flatting/lapping the oil pump cover on a surface plate "

My old mechanics instructor just rolled over in his grave...
If ,as an apprentice ,I was to lap anything on "HIS" surface plate,he'd be hanging knots on my head faster than I could rub them....!!!
That was one of the first things impressed on us when we started in his class...."The right tool for the right job"...and HIS surface plate was a precission instrument,a true flat surface, for among other things
Checking for warpage in other surfaces...
Once you lap something on it it wears the surface of the surface plate and you can not ever have a true flat surface where you lapped the valve,as the lapping grit not only wears the valve material but the surface plate material also...
A cardinal sin ,worthy of a group sac kicking if you were caught doing lapping on HIS surface plate..

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Richard.....

You said....

" flatting/lapping the oil pump cover on a surface plate "

My old mechanics instructor just rolled over in his grave...
If ,as an apprentice ,I was to lap anything on "HIS" surface plate,he'd be hanging knots on my head faster than I could rub them....!!!
That was one of the first things impressed on us when we started in his class...."The right tool for the right job"...and HIS surface plate was a precission instrument,a true flat surface, for among other things
Checking for warpage in other surfaces...
Once you lap something on it it wears the surface of the surface plate and you can not ever have a true flat surface where you lapped the valve,as the lapping grit not only wears the valve material but the surface plate material also...
A cardinal sin ,worthy of a group sac kicking if you were caught doing lapping on HIS surface plate..

Ah, country nomenclature incompatibility!

We colloquially surface things on a surface(ing)/flatting/rubbing/lapping plate whereas a surface plate is a precision flat plate as you correctly describe and definitely not to be used with grinding paste!

R.

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
do you have a way to contact him, phone no?
thanks
dave

Ah, seems the interwebnet works, you called Rory whilst I was there.

Matt was this far a half hour ago, bolting the very part you need and hopefully may yet get there in a week or two.

R.

[Mike Kelly]

Plate glass ...... has he gone mad I can hear you say . It's the ideal method for lapping in any flat surface . I learnt about it when I used to grind radio XTALS up in Frequency , the old FT243 type XTALS , you can disassemble them and grind the thin plate of quartz down . You use carborundum powder , or fine carborundum grade paper . Plate glass is optically flat , which means its great for levelling carby joints/faces and many other uses too , the thick stuff is the best 1/4" or more .


The Morris engines - Dave's looks better than new . Watch out for the oil leaks Dave , it's British . The tree frog green is eye catching .

Mike

[Mike Kelly]

Originally posted by Max Hedges
Dave here is a photo of the engine that is in the old truck, I don't have any other photos at the moment.
Max

Max , that might be a LC 30 engine . The LC 30 was in production pre war , from late 1937 , production went on after the war and finished around 1948 . It was given a slight face lift and a OHV engine and renamed the LC3 . Or did the LC 30 have a OHV engine from its beginning ? It could also be from a post war CV type truck . I have Harry Edwards' book here somewhere , he explains it all .

Mike

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Mike Kelly
Plate glass ...... has he gone mad I can hear you say . It's the ideal method for lapping in any flat surface . I learnt about it when I used to grind radio XTALS up in Frequency , the old FT243 type XTALS , you can disassemble them and grind the thin plate of quartz down . You use carborundum powder , or fine carborundum grade paper . Plate glass is optically flat , which means its great for levelling carby joints/faces and many other uses too , the thick stuff is the best 1/4" or more .


The Morris engines - Dave's looks better than new . Watch out for the oil leaks Dave , it's British . The tree frog green is eye catching .

Mike

MIke
You beat me too it...
Plate glass is an excellent lapping surface as well as a surface plate...
Different pieces of course..
This was my next post..
Thanks.

[Max Hedges]

Dave here is a photo of the one on the engine that came out of the old truck
Max

[Max Hedges]

Dave a couple of photos for you to look at
Max

[alleramilitaria]

looks like some of the parts i need.
the engine builder has the flywheel cover now and so all im missing now is the front end parts and the brake fittings.
thanks
dave

[Max Hedges]

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[alleramilitaria]

yummmmmm morris bits

[alleramilitaria]

i know they will work
LUCAS didnt have anything to do with making them

[Max Hedges]

and the fan

Dave you better send me you adress to send them off
Max

[Max Hedges]

don't look at my spelling

[alleramilitaria]

max can i give you a call in about 30 min?

[Max Hedges]

I'm off the phone now