Wanted: G Wagon or is it G Wagen...whatever I want one!

[jdmcm]

Ok who knows what out there, seems like bases are filled with rows of these suckers...what are they waiting for? Are they going to sell them on GC Surplus or are they headed to the shredder? Getting impatient here!

[Robin Craig]

John,

don't you honestly have enough projects to be getting on with for the moment without a G Wagen? Nothing beats the feel of driving armour doesn't it?

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

Ok who knows what out there, seems like bases are filled with rows of these suckers...what are they waiting for? Are they going to sell them on GC Surplus or are they headed to the shredder? Getting impatient here!

The G Wagons are tempermental when broken. I have seen very little nice written about them. If you buy a wrecked one, buy 2 more so you can have plenty of spares.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

Ok who knows what out there, seems like bases are filled with rows of these suckers...what are they waiting for? Are they going to sell them on GC Surplus or are they headed to the shredder? Getting impatient here!

I believe they will be replaced by the TAPV if and when they ever get delivered. The question then will be if the DND can afford to run armour in peacetime, or will try and maintain both fleets.

There are a few scrapped ones here in Shilo. They get written off when the door pillers get bent on a rollover, and are then held for cannibalization. By the time they leave, there is very little left, and they end up getting cut and into the scrap metal bin.

From my limited experience with them, they have a lot more electronics than a vehicle would normally have. I always prefer my military vehicles to be simple.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

According to wikipedia:

The Mercedes-Benz G-Class, sometimes called G-Wagen (short for Geländewagen, "cross country vehicle"), is a mid-size four-wheel drive luxury SUV manufactured by Magna Steyr (formerly Steyr-Daimler-Puch) in Austria and sold by Mercedes-Benz. In certain markets, it has been sold under the Puch name as Puch G.

I'd like to add that in France it was built as the Peugeot P4, which was based on the G-Wagen, but fitted with a Peugeot engine and transmission.

HTH,
Hanno

[Robert Bergeron]

The " G" is prone to rollovers because of the high center of gravity . . especially with the hatch and a C-6 mounted up there with an operator in the sling. so much so than on two bases i have worked on this year , they are not allowed off -road , only on improved roads . So much for the all-Terrain features ... But the armour is great for surviveability if you compare it to the Iltis.

[jdmcm]

All great points for sure, especially the shot to the heart from Robin about the endless amount of projects already hanging fire...just seems like such a current and identifiably Canadian machine, that you could actually drive around. Yes armour is pretty damn cool but not much of a daily driver. So does it seem likely they will end up on GC surplus one day?

[rob love]

I can think of no reason why they would not be released when the time comes. They are not US design, so CTAT or ITAR should not apply. Without the armour, controlled goods should not be involved (although technically a soft skin vehicle with blackout lighting is DCG controlled (ooops, looks like that is no longer the case)), the only question is if they meet North American safety, emissions, and crash standards.